A convenience store owner from Spanaway, Washington has been sentenced to 8 years in prison after shooting a thug who stole from his establishment.

According to Q13 Fox, surveillance footage from the March 25, 2016 incident shows 31-year-old Min Sik Kim asking a group of men loitering outside his store to leave.

While he was outside, 21-year-old Jakeel Rashon Mason can be seen attempting to steal cigarettes from behind the counter of Kim’s store.

The footage shows Kim and Mason subsequently engaging in a fight. Ultimately, according to Q13 Fox, Kim can be seen shooting Mason in the back as he flees.

As King 5 reports, prior to this incident, Min Kim’s wife was shot in the stomach by another thug attempting to rob their store.

Kim subsequently pled guilty to second-degree murder.

During sentencing, Q13 Fox quotes him as stating, “I’m here to take responsibility for my actions in taking Mason’s life. I accept the consequences. I did not have the right to take his life.”

KOMO News reports that Judge John Hickman, keeping the earlier shooting of Kim’s wife in mind, acknowledged that the situation was tough but stated deadly force was not warranted on Kim’s part.

According to another KOMO News article, Mason previously made headlines when he was convicted of attempting to kidnap a 6-year-old girl, Savanna.

The outlet’s article on the kidnapping reads as follows:

“I looked both ways, and there was no one coming but then I went halfway across the street, two guys came out of nowhere,” Savanna says.

And what happened next is every parent’s nightmare.

“They grabbed me,” says Savanna.

But Savanna’s smart moves made her mom very proud.

“Run … and kick … and punch,” says the little girl.

“What’s the No. 1 thing you did that got everybody’s attention around the whole neighborhood?” asks Savanna’s mom, Amy Norman.

“I kicked him,” says Savanna. “I screamed loud.”

This 6-year-old knows “stranger danger” well.

“‘Cause mommy teaches me,” she says.

Amy saw the attempted kidnapping from her front window, and dashed out the door.

“My heart was pounding,” she says.

Sources:
KOMO News
KING 5 News
KIRO 7 News
Q13 Fox

  • Tym O’Byrne

    Words fail me.

  • Primo Victoria

    Fuck this judge.

    • William I. Fahey

      And the prosecutor with him!

    • Audrey Thomas

      I’d let “Lucille” of Walking Dead fame do the fucking.

    • Jack Bailey

      Scum = 1.
      Decent folk = 0.

    • ShikokuPrincess91

      Any idea who the judge is? May be a dindu?

      • David Watts

        No, he’s just an old white liberal cockamamie cuck…

    • Barely Functional

      Who was this guys attorney? Manipulating him into excepting that deal.

  • Alice P Jones

    He did not have the Thin Blue Line behind him to allow him to kill someone and get away with it.

    • anna

      Thin blue line? As in the police force? Not all cops that shoot someone “get away with it”. Police officers are in danger on a daily basis and most police shootings are warranted.

      • David Watts

        And, if a cop (of any race) had been involved, the BLM batsignal would’ve gone off bigtime. The situation is bad enough as it is.

      • dsrtradefx

        The vast majority of police who shoot civilians never even have any more than an internal investigation that concludes they did nothing wrong. 3 officers just this week actually we’re aqcuitted even with video evidence clearly showing they were not threatened. This shop owner was threatened and was not afforded any benefit of the doubt like officers are given routinely.

        • anna

          Which case would that be? And do you have a link to the video evidence?
          They do an administrative investigation first,
          And if the actions are deemed unjustified then a criminal investigation commences. I would be curious to see this video evidence where three evil police officers decided to shoot someone who wasn’t threatening them, I find that a lot of those times the videos don’t disprove anything. And of course he wasn’t afforded any benefits, he shot the man in the back for Christ sake, like a coward, you can’t just shoot someone in the back and think you’ll get away with it, that’s absolute idiocy.
          The majority of police shootings are justified, some are not. These people work a high intensity job where they make the best judgement call in a split second that could mean life or death for them or the other person.

          • dsrtradefx

            It was three separate cases involving three different officers. That’s just 1 week. There was plenty of video and has been. Philado Castile is one. On video. The officer who shot 12 year old Tamir Rice. On video. My point was not that the law should allow someone to be shot in the back. My point is that there is a level of consideration given for the danger that certain individuals perceived and that same consideration is not afforded to others. How can one individual not even get indicted and another have to serve 8 years. How can one murder, lie about the circumstances, be proven wrong thru video and not get indicted, get fired and re-hired in a year another have to be arrested and go to trial and serve time. The inequality in the way the law is applied is appalling. There is no accountability if you have a hard job? We ask soldiers in the middle of a firefight to not commit war crimes by indiscriminately shooting civilians, but can’t expect our own police at home to not shoot when they are not even being shot at. Soldiers have a job that would be considered more dangerous than police, yet they make judgement calls under fire.

  • C Kim Lemieux

    Why the hell did he plead guilty? This guy should be given a damn medal for ridding the community of that cretin!

    He might have been guilty at best of negligent homicide but 2nd degree murder?!

    Ridiculous!

    • Pissed off Veteran

      Sorry but MOST states upgrade the charges when the person is shot in the back. That doesn’t mean I agree with it it’s just the way it is. Also note this in is in Washington State, where they believe citizens should NOT have guns and they TAX the AMMO.

      • Amen. Washington state is one of THE most abusive in denying rights from the STATE Constitution AND the Federal Constitution.

        • Buddy Marlin

          As far as I’m concerned the whole west coast needs a good Pacific Ocean washing!

          • Brownknight

            Hey!!!! We used to be farmers, ranchers, mink farmers, dairy farmers, fishermen, longshoremen until the immigrants came from the south and Californicated the state. Destroyed mink farms, blocked timber sales, restrictions on farmers and loggers. Everyone worked back then. Now we have terrible employment history, even with the advent of being the “Silicon Forest”,………which brought more Californians and more land use restrictions.

          • disqus_V1pqgf7veV

            Blame your liberal progressive Democrats for that plus the federal EPA.

          • David C. Moorman

            Uh, that sounds like a legislative problem not an immigrant problem.

          • Krammer

            Where do you think the legislators came from? The immigrants (from California) elected them!

          • gunny55

            It was more than immigrants that elected them.

          • disqus_aUWn8DRjvR

            I lived in Eastern Washington for 18 years, from 1982 to 2000. I saw the population more than double, and the majority came from Portland, Oregon and California. Everything skyrocketed. Property costs, drugs, gangs, crime, all went up. We got our first gay pride parade- yay (sic). It went from being a very, very conservative community to a left leaning one. Even the waterfalls and nature trails which the locals had enjoyed for 200 years became fenced off, because the libs did not want the ‘flora and fauna’ trampled. The libs came from California with lots of money and took over everything- especially politics! The immigrant libs definitely tipped the scale. Lefties ruin their own lands, then move to wonderful conservative places and ruin them. They are like human locusts!

          • TONY1932

            SO TRUE

          • Roy-in-Boise

            Bring back the buffalo and get rid of the European settlers!

          • Budd Kirby

            That would be all of us white folk!

          • mongibello

            Don’t forget the mustangs.

          • momsaid

            Madagascar has vanilla orchids, Central and South America have cacao beans, and Persia had the secret of refining sugar. Without these, the Dutch people wouldn’t have had anything to add milk to, to create the Food of the Gods…CHOCOLATE! All things CAN work together for your good!

          • KIM

            I studied at EWU in Cheney. It was such a nice town. As i also spent a couple years in Seattle which is the city of fucked up commies as much as filthy Berkeley CA. Still Cheney and other Eastern Washington (even Central Washington like Moses Lake) towns are way better than Seattle. Damn liberals should get away from beautiful towns of America that keeps the great American traditions and values.

          • disqus_aUWn8DRjvR

            They say the favorite thing for a Leftist to do is find some wonderful, wholesome enclave, get all their friends to move there, then take it over and ruin it! I remember when Sherry Barnyard hosted the first gay pride parade in Spokane. You’d have thought she brought Christianity to the heathen. My thought was, “Great. Spokane WAS a great place to live.”

          • Raddianne Shine

            Migrant workers cannot vote.

          • momsaid

            And yet, they find a way!
            (Aided and abetted by the commie degenerates)

          • Bonnie Swain

            It is both. The legislature even let’s non citizens become lawyers and practice in the state of CA. Not sure where you are but the whole face of CA has changed. A lot of the problems will never make the news.

          • Wil

            The Legislature Allowed Obama To Become President Even Though They Knew He Was Born In Kenya …….

          • Eric Turner

            You’re an idiot

          • Melanie

            Why is he an idiot? Obama admitted he was born in Kenya. So did his family.

          • Kelvin Thomas

            @Melanie Instead of telling us this why don’t you point us to the Video or conversation where he said it. Where is the Youtube link of Obama admitting he was Kenyan?

          • Brownknight

            Wil,………we should just let that one fade away……….no one cares anymore.

          • Raddianne Shine

            HAHAHAHAHAHA

          • bob cratchett

            Are you a fucking retard?

          • DixieAngel_76

            Bull shit.

          • venusinfarse

            Mink farms need to be destroyed. That is inhumane conditions for our fellow Earth creature. Love animals.

          • Jon Goff

            You are the problem. Minks are natural resources. Fellow earth creatures, seriously? Insane.

          • venusinfarse

            They have a right to their lives. They are not fabric as you might consider. We share the earth with animals, we don’t own them.

          • Ria Pendergrass

            Uhh, we do have dominion over ALL animals.

            “Then God blessed them (the man and the woman), and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground.”” Genesis‬ ‭1:28‬ ‭

          • venusinfarse

            Bullcrap. The man-made bible is not the last word on anything but if you want to go there…. Ecclesiastes 3:19

            “For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.”

          • Paul Dean

            BOOM!

          • Bonnie Swain

            That Ec vs does not prove the point you are trying to make. It’s just saying we all live and we all die.

          • Nguyên Minh

            didn’t you read the part “….and man has no advantage over the beasts…”?

          • DZMLSIENCE

            No *advantage*. This means we have no special ability to live forever. We live and die like other animals yet the book is clear that man has dominion over them. Deny the book or accept the book but that is what the book says.

          • DollarFray

            Dominion does not mean exploitation for vanity or cruelty by any means: Prov. 12:10-11 A righteous man has regard for the life of his animal, But even the compassion of the wicked is cruel. He who tills his land will have plenty of bread, But he who pursues worthless things lacks sense.…

          • Bonnie Swain

            DollarFray, you will find that people of good intent agree with that, even if they belong to no particular faith.

          • disqus_aUWn8DRjvR

            Do not waste time debating God with godless heathens who worship the earth.

          • Robert Barron

            No advantage? I have guns, and can take on any beast you put it front of me single handed.

          • venusinfarse

            Would you eat dogs with the locals in Korea? Animals don’t belong to us and one day we’ll be faced with all the selfish things we do.

          • Lori Christina Hunter

            How about being less judgmental and let ppl live how they see fit? Or is that wrong because it’s in opposition to how you choose to live?

          • venusinfarse

            When animals have rights, good people won’t have to advocate for them. How about that?

          • Bonnie Swain

            That is simply a cultural issue. If you get hungry enough you will eat anything. As a guy, you may be interested in a book about the longest held civilian POW from the Vietnam War. I can’t remember the name of it, but it is a good account of a bad situation.

          • Robert Barron

            One day you may realize, your opinion doesn’t matter to people as much as you think it does. Or you won’t. Either way, you’re an idiot. Enjoy your soy burger knucklehead.

          • venusinfarse

            I don’t eat soy. Thanks for being interesting in my opinion tho!

          • jack

            no advantage, that is, in avoiding earthly demise.

          • DefiantDeity

            Remember you are talking to the same idiots who have trouble understanding the Constitution especially the second amendment. They still think firearms should be banned and go on about a militias are the only ones that can own them or only muskets are the only things that should be covered. They have a hard time understanding a simple amendment that is very clear in what it sates.

            These same idiots who don’t recognize a right that is laid out in the constitution somehow believe other things that are not in the Constitution are rights such as the right to feel safe, or these gems…..the right to free birth control, abortions, or healthcare.

            After listing just a few out the thousands of reasons why liberals are idiots, you really cannot expect them to understand that bible verse. They need some MSM journalist that is void of intelligence to make an attempt at interpreting it for them. After doing so and failing miserably they still succeeded because their useful idiots aka viewers believe in the interpretation and self proclaim they are now experts on the subject. If that wasn’t pathetic enough they then go out and parrot this BS everywhere they can which leads to more useful idiots thinking they too are not informed and experts too.

          • Charles H. Thibodeaux

            I would tell you the entire story, but to long and you would think I am nuts. But I have raced everything you can think of (even some you will not) many times I should have been killed But was not. I am now 89 and most people think I am in my middle to late 60’s. Accounts I know of, a certain person has tried to kill me 10 times I am sure there were others I could not convenes myself he had tried. Like something going through the trees at high speed from left to right not vertical. I just though to go to the Hospital one night, no pain or anything, the next morning they operated on me for a 5 bypass and I am doing fine 10 years latter. I might say with good evidence the lord is watching over me. May he give to all the measures I have enjoyed.

          • jack

            what was that about something going through trees left to right? How does that tie in to your heart situation?

          • Bonnie Swain

            Yes , I read it. There is no contradiction between what Solomon wrote in Ecclesiastes and the Genesis acct. We have dominion over all other species, but we still all die.

            Even when it becomes necessary to protect a species from their numbers getting too low, by the same token, to keep a species from over running, or getting so abundant that they are endangering the environment they must be thinned out Seattle had such a problem with the abundance of Mallards, because they were creating a serious health hazard around Lake Union, that they sent in what I understand as teams to do the job.

            There isn’t an all or nothing solution to the lady’s belief system. And I see no resolution as there will always be people with both opinions.
            She needs to apply what she believes to her own life, treat animals right & care for them as she sees the need. The rest of us will be stewards as commanded. Their will also always be abusers and the law can do something about that.

          • venusinfarse

            It does prove the point that we are not above animals. If you are willing to be there when it is killed and watch its life force go out then you are not a hypocrite but if not you are.

          • Bonnie Swain

            Using animals and watching them being slaughtered would be the first thing I would care to do but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t if it was necessary. Live the way you believe, but understand that laws are not going to change serious need by man for protein and what has taken place for thousands of years. If you get hungry enough you will eat anything. And you may see that in your lifetime.

          • venusinfarse

            We don’t have the need for excessive protein and plant food supply enough. Too many cancers are from excess protein.

          • B Sto

            Oh my goodness do you even know what this saying? All it says is that on earth animals and humans both have the same fate they are all going to die.

          • Richie Correa

            Well no sht…..

          • jack

            That doesn’t negate Genesis, but only gets across the basic point that, as one Christian said to someone once, “None of us are getting out of here (life) alive.”

          • venusinfarse

            “No One Here Gets Out Alive” is a famous biography of Jim Morrison. If you are not willing to kill the animal and watch it lose its life force then it is a disconnected thing to do to eat it or wear it.

          • Matt Thimgan

            No, but God is. Man made but God inspired.

          • venusinfarse

            God is a verb not a noun. Brainwashing of the masses is complete with religions.

          • Matt Thimgan

            You are free to believe so. My belief in Him has nothing to do with religion.

          • Fultzy

            Yeah, that and whatever Obama says. Deodorant is toxic and armpit hair on women is sexy!

          • jack

            nobody is listening, Ria. Nobody is listening. We’ve moved on in this country to what has been referred to as the “post-Christian era.”

          • Charles H. Thibodeaux

            That must be King James. Read the story of King James Life. It might shock you.

          • Bonnie Swain

            King James didn’t do the translation, it was done by decree. It doesn’t matter what his life was like.

          • DollarFray

            Prov. 12:10-11 A righteous man has regard for the life of his animal, But even the compassion of the wicked is cruel. He who tills his land will have plenty of bread, But he who pursues worthless things lacks sense.…

            I think the point is that we are not to exploit animals for vanity or treat them with cruelty.

          • Lee Wro

            They can have their lives. Until I get cold and/or hungry. Then animals revert back to natural, renewable, resources.

          • David Gorski

            Did I miss something in the story?? did the store owner eat the guy after he shot him??

          • Brownknight

            LOL!!! We did wander far afield, didn’t we!!!

          • Cuda

            and venus thinks meat is manufactured in the back of the grocery store too

          • venusinfarse

            If you guys aren’t willing to be there when the animal’s lie force is leaving its body then you are hypocrites.

          • DefiantDeity

            I would have no problem being there as the life force leaves the rodents body. Someone has to check the pulse to make sure the rodent aka liberal is truly dead.

          • venusinfarse

            All the hate you have for others is really self-hatred and future health problems. Get well.

          • DefiantDeity

            Thanks for the diagnosis but I will rely on what my doctor has said to me instead of some POS on an internet forum. I have high self esteem to the point I can be called a narcacist. I also had a full physical and blood drawn last month and my doctor said I am in better health than 98% of his patients, which says a lot since that includes people in their teens or early twenties and I am in my mid 30’s.

          • venusinfarse

            Narcacist? You mean narcissist?! That’s not a good thing. I can tell you with certainty that excessive animal proteins cause cancer. You won’t detect the cysts o tumors until they grow in 5-10 years.

          • Fultzy

            Stop sucking his “lie force” Venus de “hypocrite”

          • venusinfarse

            I bet your friends think you are smart and funny.

          • Brownknight

            Who makes these rules? As far as that is concerned, been there, done that. Cattle, pigs, chickens, duck, geese rabbits, deer, elk, fish, etc. It is done deliberatly and as thoughtfully as possible and Thanks is given. Do not want any animals to suffer. But they, as I am told,, are here to serve. Nor should they be wasted or squandered. Also with this, comes responsibility. We need to be good stewards and preserve species, usually from man but sometimes from other species, disease, starvation and overpopulation. These are things animals frequently cannot do for themselves.

          • venusinfarse

            We don’t need to eat animals to survive and we share the planet with them, not have dominion over them. If you are religious, most people think Jesus was a pescatarian.

            “Jesus belonged to the Essenes, who some historians believe were one of several Jewish sects that abhorred animal sacrifice and were practicing vegetarians.”

            When Jesus drove the money changers from the temple, “he directed most of his ire at vendors in this ‘den of thieves’ who were selling animals for sacrifice and consumption.”

            “There is no mention in the New Testament of Jesus eating poultry, beef, or lamb, even during the last meal with his disciples, where Scripture mentions only bread and wine.”

            “Passages in the Bible prove that God – from the Garden of Eden on – always meant for humans to be vegetarians.”

            “For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.” Ecclesiastes 3:19

          • Brownknight

            Yes, there were vegetarians. It was not uncommon. The scripture says not to humiliate them and respect thier wishes. Now, if only they would do the same. There is also documentation of Jesus eating fish and lamb. He drove the people from the temple with the admonishment “Take these things away; you shall not make my Father’s house a house of trade.” (John 2:14–16) It was not over consumption of meat. The Last Supper was served with lamb.
            The weak man [weak in faith, that is] eats only vegetables. (Romans 14:3) Eat anything sold in the meat-market without raising questions of conscience. (I Corinthians 10:25) I have no problem with you being a vegan. But PETA followers carry this much further. Shearing of sheep is “exploiting the animal”. Eating eggs is the result of killing chicks, (most consumed eggs are infertile).

          • venusinfarse

            “As reported by Asia News, in 2007 Pope Benedict XV announced that Jesus celebrated the Passover sans lamb. He theorized that the Last Supper took place before the ritual sacrifice of the lambs and therefore Jesus himself became the lamb to be sacrificed.”—– The weak man [weak in faith, that is] eats only vegetables. (Romans 14:3) Eat anything sold in the meat-market without raising questions of conscience. —- Is is opposite day? Why would killing for vanity or taste buds be honorous? PETA does some good work altho I don’t follow them. I follow local rescues and other animal activists. ‘Ahimsa” wool is fine, the animal is not abused or neglected. Ever see how they rip the feathers or the hair for angora or goose-down products? No thanks.

          • nighthawk

            So , human beings which by the way are predators, are not to eat meat. However it is right for other predators to eat meat. Our digestive tract is constructed to digest meat AND plant life. If you do not wish to eat meat, that is your choice. But you do not have the right to impose your beliefs on others. If you think I am wrong then those of other religious beliefs have the right to impose their beliefs on you, as do meat eaters. It works both ways my friend

          • Brownknight

            Well said.

          • venusinfarse

            Wrong. Our digestive tract is too long to process meat which putrifies. It is not a belief. “We kill animals, we eat animals, they kill us”.

          • mongibello

            It will be shortly. Look up Hampton Creek Meat Lab.

          • srfe

            Nah, we most definitely own them, We evolved past being an animal first. By extension of that everything mankind does is natural. For all we know evolution must continue like this for an unknown reason. We got here first, mother nature gave us all the tools to own them. That is until something comes along and owns us, or something else evolves. Screw off with your emotional bullshit, oh my feelings. And all of these control systems are natural by extension of evolution extension of mother nature. You gotta problem with it, talk to mother nature for evolving us the way we are.

          • You have a right to drop dead, why don’t you as everyone that is not an idiot wants dickheads like you to do! They should sell hunting license for imbeciles like you.

          • venusinfarse

            Future psychopath in training right here. You hate yourself so much you think of hurting others. Maybe you should look up a permanent solution.

          • My permanent solution is to get rid of scum like you sissyboy! Go see ne and I will let you try my new rope traitor, or do you not have the courage?

          • venusinfarse

            I feel horrible for your family but my guess is they are embarrassed by you never becoming a man.

          • And what would a cucj like you know about being s man? The man part of you ran down your mim’s leg into her butthole and became a brown paste, she than had it for dinner

          • You don’t have a family, your mother hated you and let her black boyfriends cum on your face! Probably why you are a faggot now

          • venusinfarse

            Again being gay is not a problem, hating gays is. You are a dying breed of self-haters. The next generations have functional brains and hearts.

          • venusinfarse

            You sound like you need a friend. Am I right?

          • Killing scum like you is a hobby, want to try fagboy? You have no courage, jyst a little faggot hiding in the basement sucking dick

          • venusinfarse

            There’s nothing wrong with being gay. Most homophobes get erections watching homosexual porn. Denial is deep.

          • venusinfarse

            Gay people don’t have to hide anymore from little scared bullies like yourself. You have been humiliated too many times to function socially so you hide online.

          • You are the one hiding, a pervert like you has to or get there ass kicked! Bet you have no friends, not even other perverts like you . Yes, I rhink your only hope is a rope and a tree limb .

          • venusinfarse

            The only person hiding is you. Time to come out of the closet. I’m quite sure you say you hate. Make some friends with people DIFFERENT from you.

          • DefiantDeity

            Sell a license? They should pay people for putting down these stains on humanity.

          • Dana Davis

            Pass the mink burgers?

          • Charles H. Thibodeaux

            I Live as they did 5,000 years ago, you kill to eat or prevent from being eaten. I have killed to put animals out of pain and dying and I have shot to eat. Never for any thrill.
            I was taught to live in the wild when I was very young. You killed only what you could eat. We all know the exceptions, as in those with intentions to kill you which includes Humans or those that act like Humans..

          • venusinfarse

            Fair enough but excessive animal proteins are still know to cause cancer. See The China Study.

          • Flatgod

            “…or those that act like Humans..”

            Please, elaborate.

          • disqus_aUWn8DRjvR

            I joined PETA. “People Eating Tasty Animals”

          • venusinfarse

            I’m not a member but many people do find cats and dogs tasty. Sick people like yourself.

          • Bonnie Swain

            Maybe when that was started they had to for survival.

          • venusinfarse

            Google is your friend. That is a new tradition.

          • disqus_aUWn8DRjvR

            Well if some on SE Asia have to face that or starvation, should they just die? You tree huggers and earth worshippers are the sick ones. You’ll jump on a grenade to save a snail darter, yet wipe your watering mouth when an infant is slaughtered.

          • Mermadic American

            Lions share the Savannah with Gazelle and still one eats the other. Ants share the trees with birds and one eats the other. The natural order of things is thus. You want to love nature? Maybe you should understand it.

          • venusinfarse

            I understand it well. Humans are not part of that food chain capisce?

          • Bonnie Swain

            You just don’t live where they are. Bears will eat humans. Large mammals will eat humans . Pythons will eats humans. We become part of that food chain if we happen to be there at dinner time and we can’t get out of the way. And by the way, we happened to raise 2 steer and our neighbor slaughtered the animals for the ranchers in the area and also owned his own meat market. I just didn’t happen to be there. But since I was raised by a depression era mother, it was not uncommon for women to kill and dress their own chickens.

          • venusinfarse

            The food chain is specific. Cannibals are not a part of it either.

          • pistolpacking_grandmaUSAUSAUSA

            I love animals, but God put them on earth for men’s use! He killed the first animal to make Adam a cloak. Of course, you probably just believe in mother earth, not God!

          • Brownknight

            Good to know. Guess I don’t have to buy my dog a license anymore!!

          • Paul Dean

            WTF? “Natural resources”? Are you an ignorant POS libturd demofuk? Eat crap and die.

          • Charles H. Thibodeaux

            Jon Goff, You eat meat don’t you? Then start with your self. By the way do not eat fish either, you can also cut out the Vegies, they are a living growing thing. MAN just get with it and starve your self.

          • Marie Noybn

            Jon was mocking venusinfarse… reread with a critical eye and you’ll see that too.

          • venusinfarse

            Fruits and veggies are meant to be eaten or they decay. Did you miss that day in school?

          • timewalker53

            And the carrots scream as you rip they out of the earth.

          • venusinfarse

            Then eat them alive in place.

          • Marty

            As Frank once said… Call any vegetable, and the chances are good, that a vegetable will respond to you.

          • Me717

            Plants also react to being damaged. It’s been shown that even thoughts can cause a reaction in plants. Vensinfarse, If you stop eating all together you will no long be a hypocrite, until then either open your mind or continue being a hypocrite.

          • venusinfarse

            That is stimuli they respond to. Get back in school.

          • Me717

            ???? what is your education level and how much of it is in biology?

          • venusinfarse

            I’m not a nerd but I know plants are not begging for their lives. Still some people think plants are screaming after to heavy metal music!

          • Me717

            Lol now that we can agree is ridiculous.

          • venusinfarse

            Fruitarians don’t kill anything. Eating meat for health is ridiculous.

          • Bob Rogers

            You are a little slow -right? What point were you trying to make? Maybe rereading his post might help.

          • Brownknight

            Jon does not eat meat, he eats “beef” purchased in a store. It is a very similar texture, but did not come from one of God’s creatures. (Crap,…..is a reference to the Almighty going to offend anyone? Sorry!!!)

          • Bobby O’Dell

            You dumbass!!!

          • Haunani V. K. Kawananakoa

            They are indeed fellow Earth creatures; they evolved on this planet just as we did. You obviously belong to some belief system that sees white males as the crown of creation and all others as being put here to be used by them.

          • Brownknight

            Not your call. It is still a legal profession. That’s what I am talking about. You who operate on “feelings” thrust yourself into everyones business. You dont like it, dont do it, or get laws to ban it. “Destroy it”??? That makes you the criminal.

          • bob cratchett

            The pain you cause from your dumb is very intense.

          • Brownknight

            I believe you mean, “from your stupidity”,……please. We must use proper English here. Please edit your post and re-insult me in a properly phrased sentence. Thanks.

          • John Boos

            Me too, I love animals, Mink coats, fried chicken, big juicy beef burgers and of course, venison in any form!

          • Lee Wro

            I do love animals. I love to wear them and I love to eat them. It’s called the food chain and life is good at the top.

          • Robert Barron

            As you stuff a double cheeseburger down your neck

          • Cuda

            in come the tinkerbells…..venusinfarse go to mars and stick your head up uranus

          • gunny55

            This is not a immigrant its an idiot liberal fuzzy tree hugger. And they didn’t come from the South.

          • venusinfarse

            Trump is a liberal in disguise and you fell for it. You are what you hate.

          • Fultzy

            So you avoid all leather goods and don’t drive a vehicle so you don’t kill your fellow earth creatures, right? Feel free to equate yourself to the rodent family but go signal your virtue in a nudist colony and be sure to leave the inhumane bug spray in your yurt.

          • 8675309

            Brownknight – Those Californians who moved north and settled in Washington state are not “immigrants.” They are migrants. Learn the difference for petesake.

          • nighthawk

            Stop being a grammar Nazi. To her, these MIGRANTS might well be IMMIGRANTS.

          • Melanie

            It isn’t a grammar problem, it is a definition problem.

          • thos1787

            Much like the distinction between ‘immigrant’ and ‘illegal immigrant’, the difference is VITALLY important !!!

          • Haunani V. K. Kawananakoa

            English words have precise meanings; using the wrong word changes the meaning of the sentence. And calling people grammar Nazis is just a stupid defence of ignorance and illiteracy.

          • critdifrnc

            Oh, come on, doesn’t hurt to clarify meaning.

          • Fultzy

            “Migrants” might have been a better word choice but “Immigrants” is not necessarily wrong. The anonymity of the keyboard gives you fictional courage, but sniping at others is cowardly, for Pete’s sake.

          • Haunani V. K. Kawananakoa

            Actually, immigrants IS wrong in this instance because California and Washington are different parts of the same country, NOT different countries.

          • Jeff oviatt

            Actually each state is a separate country that is part of a union, much like the European Union.

          • Raddianne Shine

            Federal law supersedes state law. So no, a state is not like a EU country.

          • JoeKirkup

            You really need to take a hard look at the Tenth Amendment before continuing to embarrass yourself.

          • Jeff oviatt

            In the eu Brussels laws supersede also. Weed is outlawed federally but its legal in how many states now?

          • Brownknight

            I have been to California,……….it is a different country. (He sarcastically said, tounge in cheek). The use of the term was a deliberate overstatement. Don’t take this that seriously. No one reading any of this will change the situation nor are they capable of doing so. Like it or not, life is change,………good and bad.

          • Jeff oviatt

            I’m from California and we are more like Mexico now then the United States. I hate this state.

          • The wall Boss, the wall!

          • nighthawk

            just got wiped. Oh well

          • Brownknight

            ……..Thats it??? Com’n 8675309. I was looking for some profound wisdom that would keep us from being washed into the ocean by Moirrainefortruth. who thinks the entire left side is liberals. I was trying to save all three sta,……….well, Oregon and Washington anyway,…….maybe not King County,……..or Multnomah County, ….or Eugene,……..from certain horrible death. I was trying to save lives here!!! And you give me a grammer lesson? Sigh!!! Now I will crumble into a corner and cry myself to sleep. You are too harsh!

          • 8675309

            It’s spelled ‘grammar’ — NOT “grammer.”

          • James M Morriss

            They came from California. That makes them flipping ALIENS. California isn’t just another state or foreign country, it’s another WORLD!

          • SomeGuyJustSayin

            yes, it is the freeloaders, and even more, the ones that want the freeloaders votes, that have and are ruining your great state. The only way I can think of to fix the problem is to vote the freeloader loving politicians out.

          • Lance Jones

            Blame it on the Liberals they are the source of all the crap you mentioned.

          • Eric Tranum

            I’ve got family in Vancouver and my uncle and cousins used to hunt bears with dogs. My uncle lived to hunt bear, to take the dogs out and let em run, that is until the lefties cut it out! My uncle sold his dogs and more or less pined away until he died! I think y’all ought to get together and run em back to California where they belong! I can’t stand what they’ve done to Washington and Oregon!

          • momsaid

            You spelled ‘invaders’ wrong…

          • Brownknight

            Awwww shit!

          • momsaid

            <3

          • momsaid

            Mink are nasty little rodents! They’ll try to remove your fingers if they get a chance. Farming them is a real win/win: you keep your digits intact, and the end customer gets a nice, soft, WARM coat!

          • lucke1949@yahoo.com

            Couldn’t agree more and I live in Oregon!!

          • abbygal64

            Not all of Washington, mainly Seattle itself, outside that city many won’t even go to Seattle because of the political corruption. Seattle voters are the dumbest yet, keep voting in the same party for over 30yrs while watching us go downhill. Seattle is so liberal they coo like a LOON.

          • John

            That may be coming sooner than they think, earthquakes up and down Central America and one just this morning in CA.

          • Sher Hall

            AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Neosbrotherinlaw

            Dont worry they are wayyyy past due for a major quake. Your wish will be granted sooner than later…

          • Clifford Dennis

            your so right Buddy.

        • Renaissance_nerd

          I’m sorry last time i checked when you plead guilty you are admitting to the charges and will take whatever punishment.

          has nothing to do with your liberal boogymen.

          • CB1138

            Wrong. Because the DA had discretion not even to charge, or to charge with much lower offense. Lib DA decided to charge with highest offense.

          • RedMeatState

            they build their careers on the suffering of the innocent and in this case the innocent shop-keeper who has every right to defend his business from these repeat offending thugs. At least Mason won’t be committing any more crimes.

          • Renaissance_nerd

            when you shoot a man in the back, who is running away you are not defending your business, you are murdering someone in cold blood. Why don’t you people get that?

          • Ken Grover

            I can’t wait for the fad of backing-up armed robbers to get into full swing.

          • Charlie Noble

            Pointing out a bad shoot to prevent others from the same fate is NOT backing up armed robbers. The guy wasn’t armed, either.

          • Jose Rodriguez

            Assuming that man raped your daughter and is running away from the scene. Would you still considering not shooting him? Please answer honestly.

          • william e wilson

            How many shots? I would probably reload and shoot some more.

          • Charlie Noble

            Which then would make it murder in the first because reloading shows premeditation.

          • Eve Juicyfruit

            ????????????

          • Lee Wro

            He said/she said is a lot easier when he’s dead.

          • Vernon Wagner

            Yes, I’d shoot instantly. Knowing the SOB went to hell would be worth getting victimized by American ‘justice.’

          • Charlie Noble

            Doesn’t change the outcome. It’s still murder.

          • Bill M

            A thief running away after committing his crime after assaulting the owner then shot in the back. One less thief and thug around to do it again. He should ROT IN HELL!!!

          • venusinfarse

            We don’t know much about the fight and he ran away so we assume he was not looking to continue fighting. You can’t shoot someone in the back when not in fear of your life. We know he was a bad guy now but he was a victim in this scenario.

          • Ima Luthier

            how DO you know the owner WAS NOT in fear for his life?

          • John Boos

            That’s retarded, how was he a victim? He was stealing cigarettes.

          • somethingsmells

            “You can’t shoot someone in the back when not in fear of your life.” You must be joking! Store clerks fear for their safety every damn day. How many times was this couple robbed before this incident? How many more times do they have to be threatened with bodily injury or death? How much more do they have to take before they have the right to stand up for themselves? This asshole, had he gotten away, would have probably robbed again.

            You don’t have a fucking clue! Crawl back under the rock from where you came.

          • Griff Griffin

            Cause he might kill YOU as you’re walking in the door…..

          • Byron Shutt

            When you try to Rob someone you give up that right Leftard.

          • Charlie Noble

            Another shithouse lawyer with a degree from Facebook University weighs in…

          • Wentra

            Decent human morality dictates that you don’t shoot a fleeing person in the back. Killing is only justified when one is in imminent danger. Yea, the dead man should not have stolen from him and yes the business owner had been traumatized by his wife’s previous shooting. But, He is lucky the judge only gave him 8 years. Perhaps he can make parole in the few years.

          • Mike

            Come back when your loved one is shot by the same man who came in to rob the shit out of you. Fucking liberals

          • Wentra

            Come back when you can think with your brain and not your emotions. The man he shot in the back had not shot anyone, he stole some things. BTW, I am a registered Republican, dingleberry.

          • Mike

            Like I said, come back when your loved one gets popped by the same person who is robbing you. If you can hold it together and let him run away unscathed. Then bravo to you. If not? STFU and don’t judge a hurting man doing what he thought was right at the moment. He was man enough to take responsibility for it and you have the audacity to call him indecent.

          • Wentra

            Whose loved one was shot during this incident??? The guy stole cigarettes and ran. You need to STFU. You want theft to be punishable by shooting, apparently. Or would you prefer that we just cut off the hand of the their, instead? Learn to read, properly. You’re clueless and over emotional Iike I said. Also, you have a mob mentality. Not intelligent at all.

          • Mike

            One less thug off the street to rob, rape, kidnap, and kill innocent people is fine by my book. Maybe it will feel more real to you when something unfortunate such as these happen to your family or maybe the reason for your disapproval is because you have a thug family member? Forgive me I speak four languages, how many do you speak? English and american english unfortunately only counts as one language.

          • venusinfarse

            Your lack of logic is painful. Liberal hate is childish. GTFU. You can’t kill people for no good reason.

          • Bimmer Bacardi

            Except that he had good reason. Because there was a scuffle, the store owner had sufficient reason to believe the robber was running to get a gun, especially after his wife was shot at not long ago. He had sufficient reason to believe that his life was in imminent danger. That could have gotten him off for self-defense.

          • Ima Luthier

            it wasn’t for no good reason, the only good thug is a dead thug.

          • QED

            Pro-life anti-abortion are you…

          • John Boos

            sure you can, muslims do it all the time.

          • Nguyên Minh

            Would you shoot someone in the back if that person just killed your husband/son/daughter and running away? or are you just standing there and be a decent human?

          • Wentra

            No one had just been shot or killed in this case. Can’t you comprehend that?

          • Miguel526

            You are an idiot! You love more crime, more murder, more rape, more drug crimes, more street thuggery, more drug gangs, & more Inner-City grotesquery!

          • Wentra

            You don’t know the law, you don’t know how to comprehend an article and you don’t know your butt from a hole in the ground. All you want to do is react with your emotions instead of your intellect, because you’re an ignorant ANIMAL!!!! So, STFU, dummy.

          • Miguel526

            You define yourself with your every word! You, indeed, love more crime, more rape, more murder, more drug crimes, & more street thuggery, to say the least! Even many DA’s need more criminals out there to create more crime as a job enhancement. Surely you don’t care about the girls who now won’t be raped & beaten by this vile excuse for a human being.

          • Wentra

            Surely, you can try to carry a conversation without veering off subject and using slight of hand tricks? The things you are saying have nothing to do with this article. You use ad hominem and straw man tactics that are meaningless and you refuse to stay on point because you have no real argument. Lol. I’m not falling for it.

          • Miguel526

            You clearly are unable to really comprehend the true meaning of this article, this seen by your every word. Indeed, it is you are “veering off subject”, as you try to pontificate like some wannabe high school teacher who comically tries to mimic his college professors’ mumbo jumbo to internalize a bonafide or two. This is why you my well be an unconscious part of the Racist White “Liberal” Cabal (which runs these American Inner-City rape/murder/drug-crime/community-ignorance factories all across America). You Can Not Dare To Really Look into the widespread creation of these multi-levels of embedded criminality! This trial is just a mini-symtom of the widespread criminality of this Racist White “Liberal” Cabal which exists to plunder all of America for money & power, and to heck with the little people in these DC/Chicago/Detroit/Milwaukee/Philly/Pittsburgh/Trenton/Patterson/Atlanta/Savannah/Miami/Houston/LA/St. Louis/Oakland/Oklahoma City/Portland/Seattle/Memphis, etc, Inner-Cities! You are not “falling for it” b/c you Do Not Dare even Look into your incredibility.

          • Lee Wro

            You should probably read a few state, Federal, and local statutes. A fleeing felon (armed) can usually be ten ringed in the back quite safely. Not that it applies here, but your touchy feely mindset is at odds with reality and most laws.

          • Give peace a chance

            Blacks have 0 morality 80-90% are demon spawn. Anywhere in the world you go if there is more than a couple hundred it’s a ghetto!

          • Sams_1

            THAT IS TRUE. just is.

          • JimmyH

            Philosophically “Renaissance”, when you deprive someone of their livelihood you are depriving them of their life. If you were more into the Enlightenment, and less the Renaissance, you’d appreciate the value of “Life, Liberty, and Property“.

          • Charlie Noble

            THAT attitude doesn’t change existing law, you fucktard.

          • JimmyH

            My what a profound & deep thinker you are Charlie. Now let’s get this through your pea-sized, obscenity-laced brain: “THAT attitude” created the Declaration of Independence & the ultimate “law”, the Constitution of the United States. If you’re not willing to kill to preserve your livelihood… well you’ll make the excellent Democrat that imagine you are.

          • Curtis Falls

            That’s not called “cold blood”. It was a very stressful, dangerous situation. Complete opposites. Learn something before you try to teach it.

          • Robert McDaniel

            Tell the cops that dick ass,

          • pignutflatullate

            because the thug could turn and be frontal again any second. you cant predict the thugs next move.

          • Charlie Noble

            Yeah? Use that as a defense, see where it goes genius boy.

          • not cold blood, but murdering yes. Murdering in cold blood is coming back 2 hours to kill someone who offended you, after you have had time to think about it and make a choice.

          • Miguel526

            You are out of your mind! Which group of thugs, criminals, or drug runners do you love so much? The store owner did the entire community a Big Service by eliminating this life-long criminal (who will no longer rape, steal, rob, and beat innocent citizens)! I hope you enjoy hating your fellow honest citizens so much.

          • Audrey M-Benson

            All that may be true, however you can’t shoot someone in the back that trying to leave. You can’t kill someone on what you think they may do in the future. This is not the Minority Report. You can’t prosecute of what someone may have done or may do later. Stealing a pack of cigarettes just does not justify shooting some in the back. No matter how people try to justify it. Without rules or laws, what are we?

          • Joseph Zach

            maybe very much safer ?

          • Judith Ann Olive Maness

            First law was broken by the thug, jughead. Have you ever been in a stressful robbery situation. It’s kill or be killed. Hope you experience it so you can reason more sanely.

          • Miguel526

            “Without rules or laws what are we?” We are the rape, murder, drug-crime factories run by my former party in Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, Patterson, Trenton, Philly, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Dearborn, Charlettesville, Atlanta, Savannah, Memphis, Miami, Houston, Dallas, St. Louis, LA, Oakland, Stockton, Portland, Seattle, Phoenix, etc, etc, etc, wherein over ten thousand Blacks are raped, and murdered annually, & I guess this is all just supposed to be OK? Literally all of these places are run by my former party’s inbred operatives, all of whom I clearly identify as racists who’ve been happy enough to facilitate these hundreds of thousands of rapes, murders, & drug crimes over the last few years, . . . . because it’s “just OK”!!

          • Lee Wro

            That’s exactly what the law says the police can do to a fleeing felon, in a huge number of jurisdictions. So you’re flat wrong.

          • Charlie Noble

            Because they’re stupid. And ignorant of CCW parameters. And I’d bet most of them couldn’t get a CCW to save THEIR life. Literally.

          • Lee Wro

            That’s the best part of open carry. If the criminal knew I was armed, and proceeded anyway, it is reasonable to assume he is willing to commit a violent act in furtherance of his crime. Bingo, instant dead guy. An armed society is a polite society.

          • Daryn

            He didn’t “murder a man”. He rid the world of scum. He did the world a favor. How can you sit here and actually call the criminal the victim? You must truly be an entitlement child and a Democrat. You’re a Bernie Sanders supporter aren’t you? Just by the way you talk I can sense that about you. You probably also believe that the scum illegals have a “right” to be here.

          • Negative he could run ten feet away, turn around and shoot you right between the eyes! You don’t know. You didn’t ask to be robbed and any responsible person would not blame someone for defending their life. He just saw first hand what can happen if you underestimate a criminal and wasn’t about to die.

          • Doug Ropel

            If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
            Exodus:22:2

          • brenster

            dont start nothin (steal anything) wont be nothin ( you wont get shot )

          • Jim O’Neil

            Because you are wrong.

          • JulieForJesus

            Anyone who tries to abduct a child should have already been hung. But the government doesn’t give a @$&! about justice.

          • Bimmer Bacardi

            Agreed. He should have yelled: “Turn around!” and then shoot, lol.

          • Bimmer Bacardi

            Because there was a scuffle, the store owner had sufficient reason to believe the robber was running to get a gun, especially after his wife was shot at not long ago. He had sufficient reason to believe that his life was in imminent danger. That could have gotten him off for self-defense. Why don’t you get that?

          • Ima Luthier

            Once you are a part of a group committing a crime, you are an accessory, so since one of his cohorts shot the man’s wife, they are all accessories to murder during aggravated robbery (since a weapon was brandished by one of the criminal team)…I’d have laid waste to all of them right there inside the store, fleeing or not…

          • Rage Naldo

            kys

          • Nguyên Minh

            if Mason killed your wife/daughter, and running away, would you run after him and try to shoot him on the back? or just let him run away? If you do run after him try to shoot him on the back, would you consider yourself “murdering someone in cold blood”?

          • Lee Wro

            In this case he was eliminating one more worthless scumbag, whose existence consisted of depriving others. Good riddance. I hope the next businessman who Does Society a Favor starts an online donation site so we can get him a real lawyer.

          • RedMeatState

            Looks like you don’t get it

          • Frank E Richardson

            1. What if he’s facing you when you fire. But he spins around st the same time?

            2. What if he’s running to get his gun from the car?, then is it justified?
            3. What if you’re in shock and are in fear for your life, fearing he’ll come back and kill you?

            4. What if everything happened in a few seconds where there wasnt any time to think, just instinctively react?

          • Miguel526

            Yes, That’s The Big Point! Think of all the girls who won’t be raped, won’t be beaten, robbed, and treated to this a-hole’s thug life! Think of all of the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods, & property which won’t be stolen by this ugly little thug!! Or the drugs this a-hole won’t be stealing, taking, and robbing others to get the money to pay for! The DA was mad @ the little store owner b/c DA’s Need Crime, (& More Criminals), in order to have more job enhancement!! Anyone in Washington State who believes that their DA’s are working to Protect The People from The Criminal Class is out of their mind!

          • Darja Cocca

            The shop keeper did the people of Washington state a favor.

          • Miguel526

            100% Correct! Down here in Criminally-Run California, it’s So Obvious the my former party has become criminal organization, in and of itself! “The con man is always your friend!”

          • timothius

            Yes, and he won’t be breeding either. That’s a good thing!

          • Miguel526

            A Very, Very, Very Good Point!

          • Brownknight

            He cannot use lethal force to defend property. That was his mistake. Had he been threatened physically, fine, empty the magazine. I feel for the guy and his frustration, but you gotta use common sense.

          • Lee Wro

            There are many jurisdictions where you can use lethal force to defend your property. Stand Your Ground laws are for that purpose.

          • RedMeatState

            He’d been threatened repeatedly over time and the thug got what he deserved

          • momsaid

            Somehow I do wonder if he was scared of the guy turning back all of a sudden, or if he thought that the fellas around the front of the shop might have been in cahoots and/or armed.

            (I went to Cahoots once: very boring to visit alone.)

          • DannoDISQ

            Must have had incompetent counsel. But Oregon apparently has no Stand Your Ground statute. Perp could have come right back inside with a shotgun or AK47. Store owner doesn’t have to take that chance & lose any advantage.

          • Carey J

            A private citizen cannot legally shoot anyone unless they are in immediate danger of death or grave bodily injury. Even a cop has a tough time justifying shooting a suspect in the back. Tennesee v Garner set very strict rules on when a police officer can use deadly force against a fleeing suspect.

            Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985), is a civil case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that, under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, he or she may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless “the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.” It was found that use of deadly force to prevent escape is an unreasonable seizure under the Fourth Amendment, in the absence of probable cause that the fleeing suspect posed a physical danger.

            And this is the standard cops have to adhere to. A private citizen who shoots a fleeing assailant has screwed up big time. This guy was lucky to get 8 years. With luck and good behavior, he may get parole or other early release.

            I feel sorry for the guy, but he didn’t just break the law, he took a hammer to the pieces.

          • TooS

            Thats not true at all, a lot of times it is easier to plead guilty and cut a deal. DAs do this all the time to show “win’s” in their portfolio even though they cut a deal. So its better for them and easier for the person as they don’t have to go through a lengthy trial.

          • Renaissance_nerd

            umm no the plea is under your control, no one forces you to plea a certain way. he could have pled not guilty and took his shot in court to prove his innocence. he CHOSE to plead guilty and legally admit to the charges against him.

          • TooS

            Learn to read, the DA will offer someone a plea deal. They will tell a person if you plead guilty we will fix you X sentencing but if you plead not guilty and loose we will go after the max sentence. Thats what I am talking about.

          • Youngblood

            Liberal policies breed crime was how I interpreted that comment.

          • Byron Shutt

            You have no idea why he plead guilty. But I can take a guess. He would be made an offer example of in a Prog /Com Liberal state

          • disqus_V1pqgf7veV

            Has everything to do with the liberal boogeyman.

          • Stephen Zeigler

            doesn’t mean you need EIGHT years……had he been a black female, an illegal, or a muslim the court would have let them go….

          • Daryn

            @Rennaissance_nerd:disqus The libtard DA had the option to not charge him at all considering he was protecting his property and was dealing with the psychological stress of remembering when his wife was shot in an earlier robbery.
            This guy should’ve been given a medal rather than a prison sentence.

          • brenster

            prosecuters force you to take deals and plead . ..you obviously have never experienced the justice system …

          • chamby60

            liberal progressive Democrats and you shoot a fucking Nig…your done

          • Brownknight

            It may have a lot to do with avoiding Murder 1 and the risk of a 20 year sentence.

        • LLCURRAN

          You must be talking about the west side of WA state. Here in Central WA, Grant County, Adams County on down to Tri-cities and all the way to Spokane, we are a very Constitutional area and live free. Please do not lump our state into one Liberal thinking state, for we are not!

          • Izula

            I lived in Moses Lake several years ago and it was like a whole other world in contrast to the western part of Washington.

          • DixieAngel_76

            Same goes for the eastern part of CA, we’re not leftists!

          • venusinfarse

            You mean “leftist” as in who Trump really is — not who he pretends to be? It must be so confusing for you guys.

          • Marie Noybn

            If that is so, why do you libturds hate him so much? Thus we know that you are afraid because he is NOT liberal enough for you, but more conservative though not entirely. Just enough to make you shit your pants.

          • Bonnie Swain

            We have the same problem I the central & more agricultural areas and northern CA as well. The Californians in the northern most counties need and want to create the state of Jefferson with the ag areas and parts of Oregon would consider being a part of it as well. The problem in CA is that we are under mob rule. I’m sure Wash. residence east of the Cascades feel the same way. I love all 3 states & it breaks my heart to see what has happened.

          • Pat Fox

            like those of us who live in Northern Calif, we do not belong to the stupidness of the rest of this goofy state, most of us are very conservative, we wish to be part of the state of Jefferson !!!!!

        • abbygal64

          . We are NOT California yet where a persons rights are virtually non existent as it goes. It is considered the state where the people have less rights than any other state.

        • abbygal64

          We can still carry a gun and they MUST give us a permit if we pass the background check, California it is a May give a permit, most likely won’t. California is considered to be the worst for loss of peoples rights. Washington is not there yet, Seattle itself is close to it. Most of us hate going into Seattle because of the corrupt Mayor they have right now.

        • Dixie Ebright

          No it isn’t. Eveeytime i report for jury duty in the state of AZ, i have to take an oath to some God . Violates religious freedom and seperation of church and state. AZ makes a big deal about 4th amendment yet violates all others. So its not just the state of Washington.

        • Chris Ralko

          Don’t like Washington? Then, how about you and your guns and your bullshit Second amendment go fuck off somewhere else and stay away from that state all together. Problem solved.

        • Pat Fox

          sorry, that would be Commifornia !! he would have gotten life there !!!!!

        • Lance Jones

          Shooting somebody in the back is not a Constitutional right.

        • Michael Perkins

          Washington DC (Dumb Cunts)

      • Robert Reppert

        umm not always. There was a case in Washington in my neighborhood where store owner did the same thing. No charges and police even encouraged him to knock down the stupid memorials pansy libtards kept putting up. Reason: fleeing armed felon. That person immediately becomes a danger to the neighborhood, police would shoot him in the back too. Now why things changed for this case is just more leftist policies crept in.

        • John Marks

          Looks like the difference was that he was unarmed. I assume. 🙂

          • Steve Jones

            If an unarmed man attempts to rape a woman does she have the right to shoot him ? does being “unarmed” offer some legitimate protection regardless of the threat you may pose ?

          • Charlie Noble

            She does if the attacker doesn’t stop. Was this store owner being raped as the unarmed thief fled? Get a clue.

          • Steve Jones

            So your position is that criminals have first rights and victims only under certain circumstances,sounds like something a criminal would say.

          • John Marks

            This was not a woman being raped, it was a man running away and was shot in the back. Know the difference.

          • Steve Jones

            So criminals are fully within their rights to commit crime if they run away,if the police chase them its ok if they get away.

          • John Marks

            Steve, again, this wasn’t a women being raped AND this wasn’t the police chasing the perp.

          • Steve Jones

            I’m not saying I would have done the same thing this guy did but perhaps if we had more dead criminals than victims things would change,i do not believe a criminal has a right to any reasonable expectation of not being hurt or killed during the commission of a crime,victims rights first and foremost.

        • Charlie Noble

          Maybe your case is true BUT the guy in this case wasn’t armed, moron.

        • Carey J

          Armed is the operative word here. An armed fleeing felon, especially one who has committed a “heinous offence against the body” (murder, attempted murder, aggravated assault, etc.) poses an ongoing danger to the community. But even cops have to be careful pushing the edges of the Tennesee v Garner rules.

          It’s a hell of a lot easier explaining to the cops why you didn’t shoot someone than explaining why you did shoot.

      • PunJabber

        No, “they” (WA state) don’t tax ammo. Seattle does, and its mayor (Bloomberg*) got state initiative 459 passed which registers every gun when transferred even privately.

        * You think not?

      • Buddy Marlin

        Spot on observation Pissed off Veteran! Thank you for your service!

      • It’s not the shooting in the back….because if the person had a gun and is still a threat. You can shoot an individual in the back. I can show you a lot of moves while I’m facing away with a gun of how fast I can turn and fire. From completely turned away 180 degrees with a gun in my holster, I can turn and fire a controlled pair in 1.1 seconds…no problem. Just did that on an advanced qualification at Frontsight. My second round barely made it on the turning targets, but I got it it. The problem is the person that was shot from the story….never had a gun…. So, how was the owners life every in danger? Yes, he was having his goods stolen….but where is the threat to his life or grave bodily harm. Neither one of those things existed… So, what would a responsible and prudent person do in that situation. Call the cops…..that’s why he was convicted. Sorry, but that is the law. And that’s why when you get a Concealed Weapons License, my advice is to get good quality training. MAG 40 with Massad Ayoob is the best class you will ever take on this subject.

      • LLCURRAN

        You are totally incorrect to say WA State “where they believe citizens should NOT have guns and they TAX the AMMO”…..that is only in Seattle and the Governor, of course a Democrat, is anti-gun, BUT HE AND OTHERS LIKE HIM ARE OUT NUMBERED. There are many gun owners, mostly Central and East side Washington State, but when it comes to gun ownership, there are too many for the anti-gun people to ever make our state what they want. And, most sheriff’s on the East side, are sworn to never allow anyone, state or federal, to prevent us WA residents from exercising our 2nd Amendment. Because King county has the most residents and registered voters, our state became Democrat, but if the Eastern and Central were divided from the west side, we would be a Republican state.

      • abbygal64

        We don’t have a may or sell issue here, we are given a gun permit if we pass the background check, some states May give it to you, here in Washington it is they MUST give the permit. Restrictions are like other places no public building etc. We are NOT California yet where a persons rights are virtually non existent as it goes. It is considered the state where the people have less rights than any other state.

      • Robert Barron

        Stop making up your own laws and misleading people. Most states don’t upgrade charges when someone is shot in the back, because lethal force encounters aren’t that simple. This man should’ve never plead guilty. Why he did is beyond me.

        • Carey J

          He plead guilty because he was guilty. A private citizen can legally use deadly force only when the threat is immediate. A fleeing assailant is not an immediate threat. The video showed the assailant had turned to run away. The DA could have had the shooter for anything short of Murder I, and with the right jury, he might have made Murder I stick.

          The shooter was probably an OK guy, and the guy he shot was probably a dirtbag, but there is no shuch thing as a “dirtbag defense”.

      • Christopher Wingrove

        Not when cops do it, they downgrade the chargesif any at all

      • JC Ballenger

        Which is why it should go to federal court.

      • Experts disagree that shooting a robber in the back during a situation is necessarily ‘murder’ in spite of the common layperson meme that it is. And the Supreme Court has upheld that states must obey the 2nd Amendment, like it or not … putting people in prison for self defence is ‘in effect’ an indirect de facto violation of the 2nd Amendment.

      • Mathew Espinoza

        There is no advantage to pleading guilty to the most serious charge you can possibly be charged with…. I’m sure a jury would only find him guilty of littering

      • treeky

        So this is what happened when regressive liberal left control the Washington?

      • fedup_now

        That is in Seattle.

      • Chuck Benedon

        correct. He should have capped him in the ass or legs or something…

        • Carey J

          No! No! No! Shooting to wound is legally one of the worst things you can do! Shooting at someone is legally considered use of deadly force, whether you hit them or not. You don’t ever want to be in the position of telling the cops you shot somebody when you didn’t think killing them was justified. You might hit a major artery and kill them, anyway. At that point, about the best you can hope for is manslaughter.

          Your story needs to be, “I shot to stop him. It was necessary to protect innocent life”. And you need to stick with that come Hell or high water.

          And if you can’t truthfully say that, you need to hold your fire.

      • Haunani V. K. Kawananakoa

        A far different crowd of Washingtonians than those that drove the Nez Perce out of their homes a century ago.

      • 4True

        She was terrified and he still had a GUN. This is a mitigating circumstance since he could have turned and shot her at any point.

      • momsaid

        Although he did shoot the thief in the back, the others in front of the store may have posed a perceived threat to Kim. Mason snuck into the store while Kim was trying to get the loiterers off his property. Having nearly lost his wife to the last thief, Kim may have believed that this one could also have been armed. Split-second decisions don’t always turn out well, but I don’t blame him for stopping what turned out be a serial criminal. Perhaps his wife could file suit against the thief’s estate, for infliction of undue harm and stress. Yeah.

      • Hammer

        Robber could of turned and shot him or stabbed him at any time.

      • Tatiana Covington

        Back, front, who cares? One side’s as good as the other.

      • Pablo Jay

        Police shoot people in the back regularly under similar life-threatening circumstances. He did what he had to. The prosecutors and police management are two-faced libtards.

    • He was HAD by illegal and immoral people who don’t comprehend life and the necessity to preserve one’s life and/or one’s family.

      Washington state is rife with abuses, not the least of which are coming from those who should have protected this man’s right not to be attacked let alone his right to defend himself against those who would have killed him given the slightest chance.

      The discussion has to go to leaders and others who have to realize that our education of lawyers, legislators and educators is failing all of us.

      And it is spreading.

    • Michael Shane Gore

      Because it is liberal washington state

    • Jack Bailey

      Exactly. So the scum win while we lose?

      • sonnyboy1

        That’s the way it’s been going in the socialist society we’ve led into. What’s mine is yours and what’ you’re s is by no way mine.

    • Naos

      He plead guilty to get a lower sentence. It’d be stupid not to. He committed murder, but killing someone who was not currently a danger.

      • C Kim Lemieux

        No he didn’t. He killed someone who posed a threat to him. This wasn’t 2 guys who got into a bar fight that went too far. This was a man who was being assaulted in his place of business by a thief.

        I think someone loony tunes talked him into pleading guilty. Sure, anyone should feel guilty if they kill someone, even in self defense. But, your feelings and the legal process are two very different things…

        He should not have pled guilty.

        • Naos

          Your feelings are clearly in place here. There was no threat. The thief in question was unarmed and fleeing, so there was no threat.

          • Jeff of Tampa

            How do you know he was unarmed, what goes on in your mind as your wife is shot and is dying, this thug was with the other so both are consider armed robbers by law.

          • kohlrak .

            You shoot to stop a threat, not to retaliate. I disagree with the law, however, we need to admit what the law says. If he was fleeing, the threat was over. He should have been on the horn at that point.

          • C Kim Lemieux

            You don’t know that the thief is unarmed. You don’t know that he doesn’t have an accomplice in the parking lot. You don’t know that he isn’t just running out to his car to get a weapon or to get a friend.

            No one should be put into a situation like this–forced to even make these decisions when under stress. It’s the thief that created the entire circumstance.

          • Naos

            So by that logic, just meeting someone in a dark alley means danger, and it’s justified to assault or even kill them. I mean, there could have been danger. There could have been other people around that could hurt me.

      • cstahnke

        It’s not clear what the charge was but it had to be manslaughter not murder.

        • Naos

          How is it not murder?

    • You have to plead guilty when you kill someone, but then use self defense, as your defense plea. Then the judge can wave the penalties for a murder charge. You did indead Murder someone, even if it was self defense.

      • silaxo1

        The chances that a jury would have found him guilty are slim to none. He should have pled not guilty.

        • David Munroe

          The thing is they always scare you and say if you are found guilty you will go away for a long time. They say just take the plea and you will be out sooner. The government always does that they even add more charges just so they can scar you into a plea.

      • PunJabber

        No, you’re wrong. A finding of self-defense supports a “not guilty” verdict. You did “indead” NOT murder someone, if the homicide is justified by self-defense. Please learn something of a subject before you stick your post in it.

      • Kenny Renner

        No you killed someone who would have most likely killed you if you hadn’t defended yourself, Murdering someone and killing them is totally different Murder is premeditated and killing is in defense of your life

      • thunder bolt

        Murder: the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
        Self defense is not premeditated killing.
        get your fact straight !

      • Alex

        Ace, you’re completely wrong. He committed a homicide. It’s not a murder unless it’s an unjustifiable homicide, and if the homicide was done in self-defense then it’s a legal homicide, i.e., not murder.

      • Dang It Bobby

        Murder and homocide are not the same thing.

        Homocide can be justified. Murder can not.

      • Lee Wro

        That’s nonsense. Homicide and murder are not the same thing. If you intend to plead self defense then you absolutely do not plead guilty. The “mercy of the court” doesn’t exist. You are then at the mercy of sentencing guidelines, the judge’s mood and political leanings, and the perceived will of the electorate if he’s up for reelection. That’s terrible advice. NEVER plead guilty, even if you are. Lawyers have screwed the system around to make themselves necessary, so get one.

    • Novaqt

      He must have had lousy legal representation!

    • gail

      I agree with you C Kim. The guy should be given a medal and a parade. The only guy guilty here is the one we can’t put on trial, because the idiot is dead. I am sorry, but if you go into a store and rob it thinking that no one is going to do anything to you …your nuts! The judge is nuts also, what an idiot. Your going to give an innocent man 8 years in prison so now everyone will be afraid to protect what is theirs. What a message to send the criminals..Hey look thugs, we are all going to be afraid to protect what is ours because we might get 8 years locked up. That is the message this judge sent. Get him off of the bench and have him work behind the counter of a mini mart for awhile. This judge needs about 50,000 letters letting him know his head is on ass backwards.

    • Dlbnfla

      He had a public defender…..

      • DaisyToo

        🙁

    • Jesus Christ

      Yeah, I don’t get it. He could have argued he shot the guy at the back in the heat of the moment.

    • disqus_V1pqgf7veV

      He thought he was doing the right thing by being honest and following the laws of our land. The judge failed him badly. But then the west coast is totally liberal progressive and they don’t want anyone to actually be an American who is honest and follows the law.

    • Michael Robert Ryan

      Agreed. It’s too bad he couldn’t find a way to bring the scum-back back from the dead and kill him twice.

    • SafetyDave

      Bad lawyer, “favors” for the DA.

    • matrixisreal

      Goes to show you never leave these things in the hands of a Judge. Anytime I face a judge for anything that may adversely impact my life, I hire legal representation. ALWAYS. Never admit guilt, and always be the biggest douche on the planet in this regard. Guilt is irrelevant, you have a life to live and you should never leave it in anyone’s hands but your own.

      Some people should suffer for what they have done, but I have never harmed anyone intentionally or adversely by my actions. The day I might, will probably be a direct result of someone else provoking a response otherwise.

    • Devlin

      I think if he hadn’t pled guilty he would have received more years. From articles that I have read, the description of what happened in the video that police have reported is that Mr. Kim shot Mason in the back as he was trying to flee from the store. Having ownership of a gun and have gone through the proper training, he would have known that you can not shoot someone in the back. From other articles, Mason was caught trying to steal cigarettes from behind the counter and I did not see where Mason was armed either. Once Mr. Kim holstered his weapon and the two men were fighting, Mr. Kim made a decision that Mason was no longer a threat and only pulled the gun out again to shoot after the fact, was because he was upset.

    • Churm Rincewind

      Probably an idiotic plea bargain that was pushed on him. That is how most of the worst miscarriages of justice happen. Compare this to Brian Banks and similar cases. Do not plead guilty. Prosecution will intimidate you into taking plea bargains through the use of ridiculous, trumped up charges. Just don’t. Don’t plead guilty.

    • Emerson Joseph Addison

      If you want to shoot unarmed people in the back, you need to become a cop first!

      But yeah, it sounds like the world is definitely better off without this Mason asshole. Good riddance.

    • Ed ‘ got ‘ Wood Jr.

      Face… Confuscian thought and influence , is in many eastern cultures , to some degree or other . Even Chairman Mao is said to have incorporated it , into some of his earlier writings…

    • empiresentry

      in fear for his life after repeated assaults and attacks…does not matter if they guy sees a gun and turns his body.

    • 4True

      Bad legal defense as well as threats from the courts . I’ve seen it often here in the West Coast.. The courts DAs and Judges are trash. . She should never have been charged. Rid the world of a child molester and likely killer.

    • The Judicial system cannot stand any citizen doing their job properly and permanently unlike their revolving door justice. They love the repeat business while they reside in gated communities.

    • noyfb

      You don’t understand because you think like a child. There’s so much wrong with those few sentences you wrote.

    • swagchef

      The video showed the guy shoplifting, getting punched, and trying to leave. You can’t shoot someone in the back like that.

      The vengefulness in me is happy to hear that he’s dead, considering he tried to kidnap a little girl.

      The American in me says that they both broke the law here, and the shop owner clearly was in the wrong. In America we can’t kill shoplifters.

    • Pumpkinhaid

      They convinced him a Black Victim persecution woukd convict him anyway.

      His problem is zero protection from cops with a bunch of black scum in the hood.

      Close the sore and move. Sorry, but your life and freedom aren’t worth it.

      Come to Florida where yoy have at leadt a chance against crazy prosecutors.

      A child kidnapped is put of prison, and this guy is in? His baby mamma throws a childish hysteria fit in TV, and many says he wss such a good boy, 8years?

      The refusal to lock up scum while keeping people like this locked up is insane. F your race! Stealing and attacking the owner means 10 years in jail. Your buddies object? Give them all 5. Have the store owner come in once a month to sledge hammer their nuts.

      You no rob! WHAM!

  • Rokky

    Um ok, very misleading to show a video of another robbery.

  • jack lehr

    This kind of story causes Americans to lose confidence in their own government – which of course is the point.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      He shot a man in the back as he was attempting to flee. He pled guilty, those are the breaks. The legal definition of self defense is only to use enough force to stop the imminent threat. A man running away from you is not an imminent threat. I agree 1000% with the judge. There was no reason to use lethal force. Had he plead not guilty he would have had his day in court but pleading guilty means you are admitting to the wrongdoing.

      8 years is fair and just for murdering a man, even though he robbed your store.

      • When the shoe is on the other foot, dear liberal, I pray there is someone there to save your cowardly tail end.

        • Renaissance_nerd

          it’s so cute you think i’m a liberal because i disagree with shooting people who are running away in the back.

          • Audrey Thomas

            At the very least, you’re an idiot. I would have shot that child rapist and thug while he was asleep in bed.

          • Renaissance_nerd

            and you’d be guilty of 1st degree murder. have fun with that.

          • Audrey Thomas

            I would. I’d be doing the world a favor.

          • Robert Reppert

            Yup. Round up the posse and hang ’em high. We’ve reached the Old West lawlessness by all the libtard laws now. Justice is not being served and the criminals roam the streets. If ever we needed the comic hero Punisher and Wolverine its now.

          • Chad Rafferty

            2nd degree is the MOST he could have got ..1 st degree is premeditated ,he did not ‘plan” this shooting …

          • Mark G. Taylor

            If I was on your jury, I would not convict you for it, same as with this store owner. Just like many other people, I am tired of the thugs winning and the good guys losing.

          • Audrey Thomas

            Little confused are we?

          • Doc

            Sounds like he has it figured out to me.

          • Mark G. Taylor

            No, I’m not confused. If you had shot that child rapist in his bed, and were on trial for it, I’d never convict you. Maybe my comment was not clear, sorry.

          • Audrey Thomas

            Sorry, I misread it.

          • Kelvin Thomas

            All of the details are post defacto Audrey. When he shot him in the back he did not know anything about the guys record or previous crimes. The guy was no longer a threat when he turned to run. At his point the guy made the decision to shoot him due to what happened in the past. And that my friend is a Crime. We should thank this judge for his leniency. Had he administered this sentence as mandated that guy would have been canned for 25 years to life. The fact that we learned all of this after the fact does not change anything.

          • Mos313

            It actually changes everything. Criminals are criminals. This dude richly deserved to get shot.

          • Naos

            Doesn’t give you or really anyone the right to kill them, does it?

          • Steve Jones

            What right do they have to commit crime ?

          • Naos

            Irrelevant, that doesn’t you can be like: “well, he stole something, I’m going to shoot him even though he has no weapon.”

          • Steve Jones

            No its completely relevant,your premise is that an unarmed criminal can do no harm.

          • Naos

            No it isn’t. Because you’re basically saying… oh he stole? Let’s murder him. Oh, he drove drunk? Let’s murder him. Not the way the law works.

          • Steve Jones

            No that is not what I’m saying,im saying that when you are commiting a crime you are posing a threat and threat must be neutralized…but I suspect you don’t believe in that either,the law screws the victim in favor of the criminal and drunk driving has not a damn thing to do with it

          • DefiantDeity

            Exactly, if you fear for your life then you can use deadly force. You have no idea if the guy is armed or what he plans on doing. He already showed you he is a criminal by stealing. You don’ know if he is going to the car to come back and shoot you or bring his loser friends to beat you. The owner should have kept a shotgun in the store and then put a bunch of rounds of buckshot in him and they would have never been able to identify he was shot in the back.

          • DefiantDeity

            Yes it does. If you fear for your life you can use lethal force in other states. Just because the POS started to run away wouldn’t matter since he initiated the entire incident.

          • Audrey Thomas

            In most states, it’s ok to shoot a fleeing criminal in the back if he won’t stop running. Even the cops do it and always get away with it. There’s no reason you should have to get in trouble for stopping someone from robbing you.

          • Kelvin Thomas

            But it is illegal in the state he did it in. Ignorance is not a substitute excuse for legal malfeasance. He committed the crime and caught a break. I am happy about that. But he broke the law.

          • OpusX

            Hope the same happens to you someday

          • Buckeye RUSSELL

            You are 100% right, shoot someone in the back who is running away from you will always get you some time. Except for law enforcement, for them there seems to be another set of laws…

          • Robert Reppert

            not always. Fleeing felon is many cases is considered a danger to the community, even Washington state I saw a case of where not even prosecuted but not even arrested, evidently there’s even more libtard leaders now …

          • Mos313

            Your sentence construction is poor. I thusly ignored the point you were making.

        • Steve Jones

          I disagree,if you want others to be defensless then you should be defenseless as well and pay the price

          • Thiago Oliveira

            Fucking legalists who follow the law like a fucking dog. Don’t you have your own morals? If the law said it was ok to rob a store would you fucking do it? Fuck what some corrupt politicians wrote down in a piece of paper, THE GUY WAS IN HIS RIGHT TO SHOOT AN INVADER AND A THIEF (prob child molester too, but even if not, he’s still in his right). The judge deserves the same fate as the thief for punishing a guy who was defending his life and property. Fuck you nerd.

          • Naos

            You do know morals are law influenced right? For example, a man thinks it’s wrong to fuck a 16 year old girl because of the law.

          • Dustin Allison

            apparently the guy who got shot thought it was ok to kidnap a six year old, someone should have told him it was against the law to steal maybe he wouldn’t be dead now.

          • Naos

            That would never hold up in court, you know that, right?

          • Dustin Allison

            Hold up in court, I never said anything about it holding up in court. I just meant that this guy is obviously a terrible human being, and it is morally wrong no matter if it would hold up in court or not.

          • Naos

            And it’s morally wrong to kill someone for petty theft.

          • Renaissance_nerd

            Shooting a fleeing man is not a defense of life or property.

          • Mos313

            He wasn’t a fleeing man. He was a running criminal who just stole and was likely dangerous. The hero store owner should have taken his chances in court.

          • Naos

            “Likely dangerous”. How do you know?

          • DefiantDeity

            How do you know he wasn’t? I wouldn’t chance my life by assuming he wasn’t dangerous after he just robbed me.

          • Robert McDaniel

            Fear dies not see backs fronts only after it’s done does your mind give you the right info,but go ahead defend the backwards law, hope one day you face the same, I know I known your soild as rock you won’t make that mistake, cause you’ll be his crooks bitch

          • Steve Jones

            Don’t read very well do you little potty mouth,the post I responded to expressed the desire to have someone there to defend someone who would not defend themselves,now had you looked in a dictionary you would understand that what I said ws that liberal gun grbbers who take away other people’s defense should be defenseless as well in their time of need…..simple enough for you.

      • Nick Iskenian

        I’m glad the fucker is dead we don’t need child abductors on our streets. Fuck this judge

        • Jack Bailey

          Exactly.

        • Naos

          And fuck you. Whether the person did something or not is irrelevant. We should not allow vigilante work.

          • DefiantDeity

            He should have just dragged him back into the store and got out a 12 gauge with 00 buck and put about 3 shots into him. He would have been so mangled they would have never known he was shot in the back and we would have dead scum bag and a good man free right now.

          • kohlrak .

            Other than surveillance footage…

          • Naos

            And I’m pretty sure it’s you who’s the scumbag. Thinking it’s just okay to kill other people. By that logic, I’d be just fine in taking your out back and putting a couple rounds into you. With the murderous thoughts you’re having, you deserve it.

          • DefiantDeity

            haha thank you for proving I am right! You said it yourself, you would be fine taking me out back and putting a couple of rounds into me all because you don’t like my thoughts. Are you part of the ANTIFA crowd? Those idiots claim to hate fascist but are too dumb to realize their actions are the very definition of what makes a fascist.

            BTW I am not offended and I am perfectly fine with you thinking I deserve to be shot. I am not a hypocrite, I believe all liberals deserve to be shot and put down so when one thinks I deserve the same then that is fine by me. May the best man win, oh wait… What would be the saying here because I am a man and liberals are…. well what do you losers identify as? You cannot say a man because you lack all the qualifications for that title.

            Unfortunately for you liberals are cowards and if it ever came down to it none of you would stand a chance. Go buy a dozen firearms and practice a few times a week for over 10 years. Don’t just go practice shooting at paper either. You have to prepare for real life situations, so setup moving targets, practice running and shooting at moving target, practice drawing you firearm a few thousand times so it becomes a natural and smooth motion. Also you amy want to join a gym and go at least 4 times a week because you may not always have access to your firearm or it may not be a life or death situation and one that requires a good old fashion fist fight. Do all this and then you might have a chance of beating me.

          • Lee Wro

            All the self righteous bullshit in the world won’t save you if I catch you stealing from me. Flap your arms and cough out all the sanctimonious bullshit you want. Steal from me and mine and your life is forfeit, period. I don’t care who you voted for or what you think about anything. When you decide the level of harm it’s OK to do me and mine is your call, I get to decide what level of harm befalls you. Console yourself in your last moments by believing I’m not smart enough walk away legally unscathed if that’s what makes you feel better. I just don’t care. God won’t help you, the criminal justice system won’t help you, and sure as hell FB likes won’t help you. You will have put yourself at the mercy of someone who has none for criminals.

      • Ronan Shepherd

        Fuck you and this judge! The only things he deserves is a medal for public service.

        But of course you want to come to defend a thieving thug who at one point tried to abduct a 6yr old girl.

        A shot to the back was nicest death this scum could’ve hoped for, he deserves worse.

        • Kelvin Thomas

          Maybe he did deserve worse. But shooting a man in the back is unwarranted.

          • Mos313

            Yeah. Except this dead scumbag tried to kidnap a six year old girl, so getting shot in the back is entirely warranted.

          • kohlrak .

            The store clerk was unaware of it. You gotta put these situations into context.

      • Robert Reppert

        not true. Fleeing armed felons are usually deemed a responsibility even to stop the person by any means as the chance of harming the community has leaped. As far as pleading guilty COME ON, you KNOW that comes from a) horrible defense attorney and b) plea bargons prosecutors force into the accused.

        • Kelvin Thomas

          Absolutely wrong. The guilty plea comes from the fact that an 8 year bid trumps a minimum sentence of 25 to life. He will get out in 4 instead of going before a parole board in 25. You get it? that is what the difference is. So please know and learn something before u shoot off at the piehole. It was a case of the guy not knowing the law. That is not what I am upset about on this. I am angered by the fact that his mans family will live in Squalor because the family of the dumbass robber is going to take them to court and wipe them out for a wrongful death claim. 🙁

          • kohlrak .

            This right here is the thing. We need a law on the books that if convicted of committing a crime, if someone kills you, then the family cannot file for wrongful death, then prosecute the SOB post mortem.

      • Doc

        Need to change that law.

      • wmartin46

        The problem with the idea that a person running away from you poses no threat is only true while he is running away from you. If he were to pivot, and run back at you, then the threat is real. There are too many circumstances detrimental to the person trying to protect himself/herself that this simple definition of threat does not handle.

        • PunJabber

          And if he’s EXPLICITLY yelling “I’ll be back, gook!” (or maybe it’s “watch your back!”). What then?

          • Renaissance_nerd

            Then call the cops and deal with him if he returns, the fact that did him in was he shot him IN THE BACK. that is not an imminent threat.

          • PunJabber

            “[C]all the cops and deal with him if he returns …”. Oh, of course. There’s no such thing as killing from ambush.

          • Renaissance_nerd

            conjecture is not a legal defense. you can’t say in a court of law “I was afraid he’d be waiting for me some other time so I shot him in the back to be safe”

          • PunJabber

            But then, of course, there’s the case I described (hint: which “conjecture” did I CAPITALIZE) in case you want to join the conversation.

          • DefiantDeity

            hahaha and these pansies are the ones claiming they want a civil war and will take the country back from us. It’s a good thing they are such cowards because if they do start this war we can make liberalism extinct in under a week. Thats a big win for humanity.

        • Kelvin Thomas

          But that is not what the Camera showed. It showed the man run out of the store and instead of locking himself into safety the guy went out the door and gunned him down in the back. Look accept that the guy made a mistake and this boils down to a tragedy.

          • wmartin46

            I am not arguing the details of this case so much as the point of law that shifts the consequences of a situation where a person being assaulted (or robbed) shifts from the offender to the assaulted if he chooses to use a weapon in his defense. The law claims that once an offender is in retreat, there is no imminent threat to the assaulted. However, this theory does not account for the possibility that the offender has a concealed weapon, or can meet up with others to resume the attack on the person being assaulted.

            There are many factors on-going in a person’s mind when he is being assaulted. The “rights” of the person assaulting him are not likely to be high on any reasonable person’s list at the moment. In the case of the man in this article, his wife had been previously shot by (presumably) parties unknown, and no doubt he fully expected the person in his store to be armed, as was the person who had shot his wife.

            We could also argue about the length of time he was sentenced to prison over shooting someone who was trying to rob him. But this post is long enough.

      • tessaprn

        I understand what you are saying and in a different time I would agree completely. But in today’s society all the offenders that get away just do the shit all over again.

      • Benny Enriquez

        You’re an idiot. And so is the judge.

        • Naos

          Yet not providing any reasons why…

        • Kelvin Thomas

          Stop being emotional bro. Everyone doesnt deserve to die because they committed a crime. If its true then shut up about North Korea and Iran. We would be no different.

          • Benny Enriquez

            What do you think Mason would have done had he have gotten ahold of that girl the previous year? Have tea? He did the world a favor. 1 less piece of shit in the world.

            I’m not saying execute all criminals, or that he was justified in killing this guy over a pack of cigs, but come on. Look at the bigger picture. The dude was a scumbag who most likely would of contributed nothing to this world besides crime.

            I’m not saying every criminal deserved to die, but this one did.

          • kohlrak .

            He did, but to preserve the rule of law, we have to go after the store owner with the knowledge that he didn’t know that that guy had tried to rape a little girl. That’s why the judge accepted the plea deal, because they needed to make an example out of him, even though they otherwise want to throw the whole thing out.

          • Benny Enriquez

            Upholding the law and making an example out of an honest store owner. Really? So that store owners will be too afraid to defend themselves in fear of going to prison.

            Who is to say that Mason wouldn’t have came back a week later to rob the place. Had the store owner done nothing perhaps Mason would have seen him as an easy target and return with harsher intentions. Poor dudes wife was almost killed, do you blame him? Out of all people, he needed to made an example of?

      • Larry Figg

        I hope Karma is real for you. His wife was shot during a previous robbery. But I am sorry that shouldn’t affect him in any way to make sure that doesn’t happen. It , sir, is people like you why criminal have no fear in robbing and attacking people. I am of the belief that if you commit a crime you go in knowing you could be shot and killed.

        • Renaissance_nerd

          committing one crime does not excuse committing a crime to try and stop them.

          • DefiantDeity

            It is not a crime to stop them idiot only in your warped mind. Castle Doctrine and stand your ground laws give people the right to use deadly force if they feel threatened.

          • kohlrak .

            Actually, the basis of self-defence is just that. Lesser crimes if you can prevent a larger crime is permissible, given you can prove the person is guilty of a large crime. This, basically, comes down to situations where you’re defending yourself, only. That said, this was not lesser crime. He did not shoot to stop, but shot because he knows the drill of getting robbed.

      • Jeff of Tampa

        and remember they (his partner) shot his wife. The thug is consider an Armed Robber if his commits a crime with another person that is armed.

      • Mos313

        A year in minimum security is fair. 8 years is moronic. Anyone killed while breaking the law needs to have reduced protections.

        • Renaissance_nerd

          considering murder usually gets you 25 to life, 8 is perfectly reasonable

      • Claire Voyance

        On the flip side, had he shot him in the butt and then say, paralyzed this scum…. the scum could have easily sued him and ended up owning the store and whatever else the man had.

      • Dustin Allison

        good thing he took this scum off the streets.

      • cstahnke

        The sentence is excessive unless he had a lot of priors. Should have had a jury trial as others have mentioned or copped a plea. I think a man has a right to defend his property and that should have been taken into consideration and evidently it was not.

    • Doc

      What confidence?

  • Samuel Alterio

    Here’s a concerned citizen that helped rid the world of a useless piece of shit and he’s getting punished for refusing to play the victim.
    The man is a hero in my eyes.
    Hey, if the legal system would have actually worked in the first place, Mason would never been around to be shot in the first place. I say give Min Sik Kim’s 8 years to the judge that put Mason back out there after the attempted kidnapping charges.
    Hopefully this story goes national and Kim’s judge loses his job.
    Fuck catering to all these criminals.

    • Charlie Noble

      What’s next? We murder people because they used our ATM card and bought a pack of smokes without our permission because in an unrelated incident something bad happened to our girlfriend?

      • Mark Switzer

        You went from ARMED ROBBERY to stealing an ATM card?

        • Samuel Alterio

          Because he can’t make a legitimate argument against Mr Kim’s actions where he was assaulted, so he’s contrasting to a non violent crime. Lethal force should always be justified in the case of violent crime.

          • Kelvin Thomas

            The legitimate argument here is that Mr. Kim shot the man in the back when he had opportunities to secure himself and call the police. Once that man ran out the door all Kim had to do was lock it and report it to the police. He ran to the door and shot outside of the store striking the man in the back. This is serious business. It is no different than a man being caught by the cops and surrendering but then being shot once he laid down. Ensuring that you catch a guy is not grounds for deadly force. Its tragic what happened to Mr. Kim but he broke the law. Plain and simple.

          • Samuel Alterio

            It clearly stated there was a physical altercation, *cough*assault*cough* between being robbed and being assaulted he should have been well within his rights.
            This wasn’t a 12 year old on a dare, running out the door with a Snickers bar, this is a repeat offender that the justice department was far too leanant on first time around, and if he been serving a proper term for attempted kidnapping this never would have happened.

          • Kelvin Thomas

            That video was of a previous crime. Mr. Kim shot a shoplifter in the back that was trying to leave the store with his heist.

      • Samuel Alterio

        So you’re saying give criminals free reign?

      • OpusX

        I hope a knigger shoots someone in your family real soon.

      • Robert Reppert

        non-sequitur Charlie, wrong comparison, I pray you are not a college graduate, even the “classy liberal colleges” teach better logical fallacy than your example. Shoo, off with you

      • The Jokester

        What a cowardly loser you are. How do you move about with no spine? Did your spineless father teach you? Or was Daddy not in the picture? What a fake ass name Charlie “NOBLE” it should be Charlie Cuckold.

      • tessaprn

        I believe that’s a real long jump from armed robbery (his wife was shoot) and an ATM card thief.

      • DefiantDeity

        If they are liberal then answer is YES.

  • David Doria

    All these people saying it’s fine to shoot someone in the back for stealing cigarettes. Wow.

    • mike

      they shot his wife and shot at him.

      • Ralph Gottlieb

        This guy didn’t shot at them. It was another rubbery. This guy stole cigarettes. Which isn’t a great thing to do, but you shouldn’t be killed for it.

        • Greg Srednicki

          Dont steal cigarettes and you won’t get killed for it. Pretty simple

        • Ogmios Soimgo

          if he felt threatened then he is justified, the prior shooting is clearly justification and ya the more theives that are killed the better.

    • Eminence Front

      fuck criminals. You wanna rob good, hardworking people, then expect to be shot.

      • swampdrainer65

        This ni66er was worthless anyway as he helped attempt to kidnap a 6 yr old girl in the past. Karma caught up with this now goodified ape.

      • Unfortunately, liberals don’t understand this.

    • Greg Srednicki

      When you play with fire, sometimes you get burned.

    • “All these people saying it’s fine to shoot someone in the back for stealing cigarettes. Wow.”

      You don’t want to die, don’t steal. Whodathunk?

      This man deserves a medal for ridding this planet of some lowlife thief.

    • Roger

      How about DON’T STEAL? Act stupid, get treated stupid.

    • Rob

      He also fought with the store owner. While Kim definately overreacted, he shouldn’t spend the next eight years in prison. He was at work attempting to earn a living and didn’t ask for that kidnapping savage to steal from him or fight with him. He should be praised for making society a better place rather than being thrown in prison.

    • OpusX

      A thief deserves death, so yes. And fuck you.

  • Rokky

    Reading how his wife got shot in a prior situation… cmon judge, anyone wanting to protect their family would do the same.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      His wife got shot because she was stupid, if someone has a gun pointed at you you don’t draw your own cowboy style. The smart thing to do would be give the person everything they want and call the cops after hes gone. You’re money in a business is insured.

      if you are going to own a firearm you should be trained in when to use it. All she did by pulling her own gun was escalate an already dangerous situation.

      • Robin Wallabee

        What you suggest is keeping criminality in culture normal. Decent people should leave Dem run states which leave these idiots to eachother.

        • Renaissance_nerd

          It has nothing to do with criminality, it has everything to do with survival. She was shot because she escalated the situation.

          • dudley76

            You don’t know what the perp would have done had she not drawn her firearm.

          • OldNYFirefighter

            Then you wait until the bad guy is distracted or looking away. Drawing a weapon while the bad guy has his finger on the trigger & looking right at you is definitely going to get you shot at if not actually shot.

          • Todd Clemmer

            Do what Renaissance_nerd said, let them take what they want and when the cops come tell them the perp was black. They should find him, never.

          • OldNYFirefighter

            She required at least two seconds to respond & the bad guy needed only 1/2 second to shoot. A losing situation almost every time.

          • Dustin Allison

            Except she didn’t get hurt or stolen from because she shot first which caused the robber to flee. So in that real life scenario she had the best results possible.

          • DefiantDeity

            obviously you have never had a gun pointed at you have you? You have no idea if the criminal is going to kill you after you give him what he wants so he does not leave a witness behind. I would rather chance it by fighting for my life than hoping the criminal gives me mercy.

            If you researched instead of running your mouth like an idiot then you would know she waited for him to turn his head and then she pulled out her weapon and fired at his head but missed. She also survived which proves you’re an idiot. It was not a losing situation as she is still alive and if she had aimed center mass she probably would not have ever been shot.

      • dudley76

        “The smart thing to do would be give the person everything they want and call the cops after hes gone. You’re money in a business is insured.”

        ….assuming the perp does not shoot you after you hand over all your stuff. In other words, “bend over”.

        • Robert Reppert

          yup, that argument is just as stupid as “do as the kidnapper says and you’ll be safe” – fuck that, the person is going to hurt you anyway. That weapon is already drawn, that’s immediately intent to kill, this kind of action is force with force. These f-ing people believe TV where there’s a half hour stand-off – BULL, it’s draw and fire. Firearm has already escalated the situation to life danger level.

          • DefiantDeity

            Or as dumb as all these liberals at colleges telling woman to just let the rapist do what he wants with you and you can try urinating on him because that may deter him. They are strictly against owning firearms for protection, all you need is urine and if you don’t need to pee then lay back and try and enjoy the ride.

      • Toshi G.

        No. If you let the bad guys get away with robbing you, then another one will come and eventually you’ll end up dead. The only way to get rid of roaches is to kill them.

        • OldNYFirefighter

          Another one will probably come into the store anyway.

          • Dustin Allison

            So just let them take what they want? You can go ahead and live you life like that.

      • Veronika Smith

        Jump off the nearest cliff you piece of shit

      • OpusX

        I hope a knigger shoots someone in your family real soon

        • Renaissance_nerd

          and I hope you live a very long, healthy and happy life.

          • PunJabber

            Each of you is on a road leading to what the other wished for you, but it’s sad to see your respective malice and folly. Ezekiel 18:23

          • Naos

            Citing fiction, that’s rich.

          • PunJabber

            Whether or not you believe the Bible is the word of God, it is ignorant and silly to disregard it as a rich source of our cultural heritage.
            Sneering at such a quotation (“desireth not the death of a sinner, but rather that he should turn from his wickedness and live”) is weak.

          • Naos

            No, I’d sneer at anything coming from the bible. Unlike a Christian, I’m not going to pick and choose.

          • PunJabber

            So you refuse to know anything about the work of literature which has the strongest influence on our culture. I don’t think that is a wise or effective strategy of communication (a more polite way to say what I did before) but of course you are in charge of your own signalling.

          • Naos

            Oh, I know about it. Being ignorant to it, and just not giving a shit are two separate things.

          • PunJabber

            But you say you reject (sneer at) quoting anything from the Bible, and refuse to “pick and choose”, apparently regarding that refusal as a virtue. Several possibilities occur to me:

            1.) You know the Bible is exactly wrong about every detail on every level (which is absurd, since it isn’t internally consistent).

            2.) You regard its words as so toxic that using any of them will poison your or anyone’s argument or credibility.

            3.) You consider the Bible so irrelevant to any sane discussion within our culture, that quoting from it is prima facie evidence of frivolity or madness.

            None of these is consistent with “I just don’t give a shit”, it seems to me. If I am missing some drawback in my choice of metaphors, I will gladly learn from you.

          • Naos

            1. Inconsistency does not imply correctness.

            2. Well, the words are toxic. Talks of condoning stoning, slavery, and forcing a rape victim to marry her rapist… all sounds pretty toxic to me. And of course it does damage an argument. If you can’t argue from a secular point in matters not directly involving religion, then your argument is void.

            3. Why should the bible be relevant outside of religion? It has no place in the formation of law, or in any way those kinds of decisions are made.

          • PunJabber

            You are arguing against using the Bible as a source of authority, which I did not advocate. I was talking about using the images and phrases which it has passed into our cultural heritage. That is what makes it relevant to this discussion, and what I did* that aroused your fervent not giving a shit.

            * A prayer familiar to Episcopalians, who are (or used to be) the least irrational and most Anglican, refers to God “who desires not the death of a sinner, but rather that he should turn from his wickedness and live”. That is practical benevolence in one who (or Who) judges. I see value in illustrating it for the vast majority of allies who are not committed atheists.

      • OldNYFirefighter

        Drawing & firing a weapon when someone is pointing one at you is a very good way to get yourself killed. You wait until the bad guy is distracted or looking away from you, as they almost always make a mistake. If you think you are in immanent danger of being shot or killed, that is the time to act, not when the bad guy is looking directly at you.It only takes the bad guy half a second to shoot & you can’t draw & shoot that quickly.

        • Dave Workman

          Who said you can’t?

          • OldNYFirefighter

            if you haven’t ever been there, you are strictly guessing & that will get you shot. I would bet money as I have seen it more than once. Movies aren’t real.

          • Dustin Allison

            wtf are you talking about the guy was distracted and she pulled her gun and fired before he even reacted.

          • DefiantDeity

            You have seen it? You mean you have seen the mess after it happen? I have seen it happen in person. I have also been in this situation and you are wrong.

        • DefiantDeity

          You idiot you should read the report! She did wait until he looked away before drawing her firearm. She aimed for his head which was a mistake and caused her to miss him.

      • DefiantDeity

        You moron you do realize a lot of criminals do not want any witnesses and will kill you anyway. Thank you for being such a coward because hopefully one day it will be the end of you and that will make the world just a bit better.

    • Charlie Noble

      Not even, sunshine. If you had any CCW training you would know this.

      • Rokky

        I don’t, and I’m guessing the store owner doesn’t either. So your response doesn’t apply here.

    • Shared with 4k on twitter.

      Many states have a problem stopping those who wish to harm others – we’re heading to the wild wild west reallllly fast.

    • OldNYFirefighter

      If he had been armed I would agree, but all it was was shoplifting nothing to lose your life over. If it had been an armed robbery, that is entirely a different story. If he didn’t plead guilty the prosecutor would have to prove intent. He sentenced himself when he plead guilty.

    • Naos

      No, because the robber was not endangering the person in question at the time of the killing.

  • AverageJoe1987

    Democrat controlled area of course.

    Where criminals are the good guys, and if you try to fight back the Dems see you as the bad guy.

    • anna

      Liberal infested area. Spanaway is a particularly seedy area too.

      • David Watts

        What’s with judges in Washington, anyway?

        • anna

          The funny part is that it’s mostly western Washington, in the area surrounding Seattle. Eastern and southern areas are farm lands and very conservative.

          • OpusX

            California is the same way. Get away from San Fran, The LA area and San Diego and they tend to lean conservative as well

          • David Watts

            I live there, and you speak truth. Even San Diego has very conservative pockets, due to all the military families there. I suspect a certain amount of gerrymandering keeps dillweeds like Pelosi and others perpetually in office… ecch…

        • anna

          Some of the judges are fair, some aren’t. Honestly, it’s the lifestyle up here and a form of social acceptance i think that leads people to become liberal. When you’re around enough people who think and judge a certain way, you tend to start basing your world view off a very narrow set of perceptions. I am a “reformed” liberal, as in I grew up thinking one way and eventually changed my mind because I started to pay attention. Needless to say my views are not very popular within my peer group. I would imagine the pressure when you’re in the public eye is much worse.

          • David Watts

            Very well-put. 🙂

          • anna

            Exactly! You see my point. These people put themselves in these positions by catering to what the people want to hear, and they must live up to their “values”. Not saying they are all liars or anything.

          • And we need to fight this attitude of non-education and non-humanity from the voter’s booth and ballot.

            Starting with our ignorant State Congress, both Federal senators and our wine freak drunk of a Governor.

          • anna

            I would like to see someone elected with some balls, this state is so wishy washy. If republicans would quit fighting all the stuff the liberals find “fun”, then there wouldn’t be such resistance. Unfortunately that most likely won’t happen.

    • Seattle controlled, my friend.

      The rest is controlled by as ignorant a cohort of RINOs as you will EVER find in America today.

  • Eminence Front

    Stupid to plead guilty. I would have fought the case until my last dying breath.

    • Dino Cavallo

      His lawyer must be an idiot.

      • David Watts

        And that cringey ‘mea culpa’ he had to say… ugh. As has been pointed out by others, this was all done to shave years off of the sentence. “Shave it down” to 8 years? Hokey smokes…

      • Naos

        No, the lawyer was getting the sentence down as far as he could. There was no way to get a “not guilty”, ruling, due to the fact it was murder.

    • OldNYFirefighter

      That was a big mistake. Make the prosecutor prove you were wrong, don’t admit it.

      • Naos

        Which will lead to a longer sentence.

        • OldNYFirefighter

          Maybe, maybe not. I would let a jury decide, by putting them in the same position.

  • breandan

    The video is misleading as that’s not the crime at issue.

  • The Irredeemables

    This isn’t justice.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      yes it is, 8 years is very fair for killing a man who was running away. oh by the way HE PLED GUILTY! he admitted to the wrongdoing.

      • Veronika Smith

        How do you even have time to post here when your bull needs prepping?

    • Teknikid

      Justice does not mean you get the outcome you desire.

      • The Irredeemables

        No shi t Sherlock

  • anna

    Good for him, one less shit bag on the streets in spanaway…by that I mean good on him for shooting that POS. It sucks he has to go to prison but he did shoot him in the back.

  • Dino Cavallo

    As soon as I saw the name of the thief I knew he was black–the guy is lucky the judge didn’t give him life in prison. Shooting a black in Washington? Unless you are black you are going to do time, no matter what the circumstances are.

    • swampdrainer65

      One less ni66er. Works for me.

  • Young Sid

    Well criminals now have more rights then the defender …go figure

  • Ralph Gottlieb

    A guy steals cigarettes (no weapons or violence at all) but gets shot when he flees. The comment section thinks that being killed for stealing cigarettes is great. I don’t get it. I mean, if you steal cigarettes you have done something wrong. But being killed for stealing cigarettes sounds a little bit hardcore, don’t you think?

    • swampdrainer65

      He helped kidnap a 6 yr old girl in the past. This was just another piece of shit ni66er meeting Karma. One less ni66er.

      • anna

        No need for name calling, you make us all look bad with that shit.

      • Kristen Loomis

        Do you feel better that you can say these things with the anonymity of the internet? Your name is right, we need to drain a swamp or two, including the grimy one you live in.

      • Naos

        Wow, are those names really appropriate? And you question why liberals call you racist.

    • anna

      He didn’t just steal cigarettes, he also attacked him. He shot him in the back which is why he got jail time. If he had shot him in the scuffle he may have gotten no jail time. Quit focusing on the cigarette thing.

    • You take another’s property, and that person kills you, that’s on you, bub.

  • misha1d1

    He should not have plead guilty. That is on him. The jackass who robbed him made his choices and the consequences are he no longer lives. They shot his wife.

    • Naos

      Pleading not guilty would lead to a longer sentence.

  • Larry Figg

    Oh So liberal judges are the greatest thing since sliced bread when it comes to ruling against President Trump, but when they rule in favor of criminals (with their poor upbringing and lousy environment they know not for what they do) everyone screams and shouts. So a criminal gets shot by law abiding shop owner and the law abiding shop owner gets put in jail. Man what happened to you left-coasters? Ok storeowners you are only allowed to use a bubble gun to defend yourself, and offer robber a job on account their poor upbringing and lousy environment and all.

    • You obviously don’t believe in personal responsibility….I don’t give a shit what kind of upbringing anyone has…You choose a life of crime, you deserve punishment. I do agree. Shooting him in the back wasn’t good but I wasn’t there(thank God) .

      • Larry Figg

        I suggest you re-read my comment. It drips of sarcastic tone. The first sentence gives it away. West coasters love their liberalism when it suits them. But when it comes to bite them in that ass they whine. My personal opinion is great this POS is off the street. I wonder how many times the criminal has showed up in front of a liberal judge and just been slapped on the wrist. This time he met the Asian Judge Roy Bean and got the appropriate sentence. Is that clearer for you. I feel bad for this family. His character doesn’t’ allow him to justify in his own mind that he killed this man in a adreline, fear induced sense of protecting his family. He just feels that he killed another human being and it was wrong.Sentencing is the real crime in this case. I, unlike Mr Kim, am a horrible human being and hope this Judge is irreparably r and horribly maimed during a robbery and has to live in his own shit and piss for hours before someone cleans him up. But that’s just me.

  • Ogmios Soimgo

    the judge is a fkin hoe

  • ytuque

    The guy deserves a medal not a prison cell.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      incorrect, he shot a man in the back who was fleeing. It is murder and the judge made the right call.

      • Terry Andrews

        You should give classes in stupidity, sadly some just arent as dumb as you

        • Kristen Loomis

          He’s dumb because his logic/opinions/facts don’t align with yours? Are you a liberal by chance?

        • OldNYFirefighter

          It sounds like you have very limited firearms knowledge.

          • Terry Andrews

            No gun knowledge required to know the shopkeeper got screwed and ren nerd is a turd

      • Margo Arnesen

        How quickly do you think a criminal in the middle of a confrontation THEY CAUSED can spin on a freakin dime the minute they see THEIR VICTIM is armed?!?! Asshole got what he deserved; too bad his buddies didn’t get it too.

      • ytuque

        A fleeing robber can still kill you.

        • Robert Reppert

          yup and endanger the community, that’s why LE would shoot him

          • OldNYFirefighter

            A LEO would also be prosecuted if he shot him in the same circumstances.

        • Naos

          Not when they have no weapon…

          • ytuque

            And how was Kim to determine that prior to the shooting?

          • Naos

            Maybe because he didn’t rob him with a firearm?

          • ytuque

            So because the deceased didn’t pull out a gun earlier, Kim should take that as absolute proof the crook didn’t have a gun?

        • OldNYFirefighter

          If he had had a firearm I would agree, but he was unarmed. That takes the immanent threat away.

          • ytuque

            And how was Kim to know that?

      • ytuque

        Easy for the judge to decide as he likely never worked in an environment likely to be the target of armed robbers.

  • BooBooBaby

    Are you serious!? Sounds like this man did his neighborhood and the Country a Huge favor by taking out this Monster!!

    • anna

      I won’t lie, spanaway is chock full of shitty tweakers and criminals. It’s a trash paradise.

      • BooBooBaby

        Sounds awful. I have never been there…..and I definitely don’t ever want to go there to visit either.

        • anna

          I don’t blame you. I went to the YMCA there once and some shit bags were outside talking about setting cars on fire. Weird shit.

    • Naos

      Well, he committed murder. Killing someone who did not present a current danger is murder.

      • Robert Reppert

        umm he did present a danger to the whole community

        • OldNYFirefighter

          Not at that instant he didn’t as he wasn’t armed.

          • Dustin Allison

            He said he presented a danger to the community which a kidnapping thief does, not that he was armed.

        • Naos

          He wasn’t armed, sorry.

  • Solange Lemieux

    This is ridiculous!!!

  • alexander

    No doubt that the liberal judges in the progressive State of Washington would be happy to sentence an American citizen for killing an ISIS terrorist. Because ISIS Lives Matter!

    • anna

      There are a lot of liberals here but the police force and justice system are fair. He shot him in the back while he was fleeing, if he had shot him in the scuffle he wouldn’t have gotten eight years but he didn’t, so he has consequences for his actions.

      • alexander

        The “fairness” test is simple – if a cop, who is officially just a citizen, were do that, how would the court see it?

        • anna

          I don’t know, but there’s probably records of similar cases. Unfortunately “regular” citizens don’t get the pleasure of being judge jury and executioner unless their lives are in danger or their home is invaded (debatable in WA…). If he hadn’t shot him while he was fleeing I’m sure this would have turned out much differently, even the judge said it was a tough call.

        • Naos

          There have been records of officers being arrested. Is there cases where it’s not? Yes. But that’s not the point.

          • alexander

            Arrested, occasionally, yes. Found guilty – almost never.

  • picnicfun

    I hope the Governor commutes his sentence.

    • Matt

      Not gonna happen…he’s as liberal as they come. Their will be a war in this country….a purge…a cleansing of the land. If not, we don’t survive.

  • TOB

    Immigrant family, law abiding, hard working and repeatedly robbed by the Democrats’ favorite voter base. He deserves a medal for finally standing up to REPEATED ROBBERIES of his store by BLACK MEN, including a previous incident in which his wife was shot.

    The USA needs a complete overhaul of its institutions…and its demographics.

  • Ragman69

    Dindu nuffins……

  • Deborah January

    I’m deeply sorry for the family, and I’m DISGUSTED and disappointed at these judges, they care for criminals and don’t give a damn about honest, law abiding citizens. SHAME ON HIM!

  • Lisa Hayes Monteleone

    The problem is he shot him in the back when he was leaving. The law says there is no immediate danger at that point. But the ruling might have been beat if he sited trauma from his wife’s shooting made him feel that still in danger. It is sad because he will now be victimized again while in jail. The judge has some wiggle room in the sentencing but obviously didn’t take any for this man’s benefit.

  • doggmaninva

    Now……it’ll be open season on store and store owners in that area, nothing you can do about being raped robbed or murdered that will not see you either dead or in jail….

    • Kristen Loomis

      Simply not true, unless they start walking backwards. So let’s drop the dramatics yeah?

      • doggmaninva

        Yea he wasn’t doing nuffin was he, just trying to get his monies and that store owner didn’t think he should….you drop the po ole oppressed black bullshit…the guy tried to rob someone,now he’s dead, and the world still turns..

        • Kristen Loomis

          I’m sorry, did you read sympathy for the robber in my comment? For that matter, where did I say anything about race or oppression? Talk about left field lol

  • Joe Blow

    Po ole Jakeel get kilt for stealing while black

  • nomasillegals

    He doesn’t deserve 8 years in prison, I guess the judge thinks it’s alright to steal and the guy was supposed to let him steal. He should of never pleaded guilty of anything.

    • POA

      He is guilty of unnecessary use of deadly force and pleading guilty likely shaved a bunch of time off his sentence.

  • BooBooBaby

    I cannot believe “Whitey” isn’t getting blamed for this somehow!

  • Renaissance_nerd

    He shot a man in the back as he was attempting to flee. He pled guilty, those are the breaks. The legal definition of self defense is only to use enough force to stop the imminent threat. A man running away from you is not an imminent threat. I agree 1000% with the judge. There was no reason to use lethal force. Had he plead not guilty he would have had his day in court but pleading guilty means you are admitting to the wrongdoing.

    8 years is fair and just for murdering a man, even though he robbed your store.

    • anna

      Yeah I tend to agree with that. He was most likely scared and reacted too quick for his brain to catch up. I’m sure he will be out before the full sentence is up.

    • Todd Clemmer

      We get it, you’ve keep spamming it here. Its in the article.
      Your help is no longer needed here little one.
      Go.

      • Renaissance_nerd

        Apparently it is needed because so many people don’t seem to get it.

  • UrAllUsefullIdiots

    Liberals….Protect the shit, attack the innocent

    • Naos

      What the “liberals” are doing here, is protecting the law. You can’t shoot someone in the back while fleeing. That is not a justifiable homicide, that is defined as murder, when no danger is present.

      • Veronika Smith

        Kill yourself immediately

        • Naos

          Nah, bitch, I don’t feel like it.

          • Veronika Smith

            Start feeling like it, cuck faggot

          • Naos

            Nah, you first.

          • OpusX

            I hope a knigger shoots someone in your family real soon. And rapes the hell out of your wife and daughters.

          • Naos

            Such an appropriate statement, you racist fuck.

        • Kristen Loomis

          Veronika dear, act your age, not your shoe size. You sound like a 14 year old boy trying to troll on the internet while mom isn’t home. Oh, and encouraging someone to kill themself? I don’t think that’s legal these days.

          • Veronika Smith

            Ugly undateable cat lady trying to tell me how to act classy. lol what a joke. Go watch some Lifetime movie

          • Kristen Loomis

            I would never accuse you of being capable of acting classy, let’s keep that clear.

          • Veronika Smith

            Ok undateable cat lady

  • Matthew David Bencie

    ITS TIME TO TROLL THIS JUDGE: STAT… That’s the least of what this joke deserves.

  • Greg Maxwell

    Yeah well . . . you can’t shoot someone who isn’t posing a reasonable threat of imminent great bodily harm or death.

  • Seth Li Atreides

    Wonder what the judge would have done if someone shot THEIR wife.
    Surely, a whole police squad would show up and gun the person down.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      His wife got shot because she was stupid, if someone has a gun pointed at you you don’t draw your own cowboy style. The smart thing to do would be give the person everything they want and call the cops after hes gone. The money in a business is insured.

      if you are going to own a firearm you should be trained in when to use it. All she did by pulling her own gun was escalate an already dangerous situation.

  • POA

    While it seems like this is a shitty outcome for the store owner, you must realize you can’t shoot people in the back while fleeing and unarmed. He was probably scared and panicked but it’s still not a justifiable use of deadly force. If you own a gun you should be aware of this kind of situation and the ramifications for using deadly force inappropriately.

  • Charlie Noble

    A bad shoot is a bad shoot. Period. This guy was not railroaded by a liberal judge in a liberal state because liberals don’t like guns. And just because Milo is reporting on it doesn’t mean that justice was perverted in this case. Wake the fuck up, Milo. If you don’t have a CCW and any CCW training, you should get both before reporting crap like this like a drama queen starved for attention.

  • Terry Schulze

    Youtube Colin Patrick Flaherty. GET THE FACTS WITH PLEEEEEEENTY OF VID TO BACK IT UP!! See for yourself the BIGGEST COVERUP in america. FACTS DONT LIE!! bet he was a good “boy” that dinit do nuffin.. we are being targeted by one group all over the U.S. LEARN! PROTECT YOURSELVES & YOUR CHILDREN!! No body else will. Wise up folks!!

    • Terry Schulze

      & you can bet this was not the first time these so-called “keeds” were robbing his store and he finally got fed up and sick of it. Asians are targets of black mob violence & their stores are targets of black mob theft. PERIOD!!

  • black privilege

  • Grace

    Didn’t he have an attorney?

  • Keely Swan

    What a gross injustice. Are we supposed to be sitting ducks and just wait around for criminals to show us their intentions before we’re allowed to defend ourselves? Why is the store owner not allowed to defend his property (and possibly his life)?! After all, many robbers kill the people they rob so there aren’t any witnesses who can identify them.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      He shot a man in the back as he was attempting to flee. He pled guilty, those are the breaks. The legal definition of self defense is only to use enough force to stop the imminent threat. A man running away from you is not an imminent threat. I agree 1000% with the judge. There was no reason to use lethal force. Had he plead not guilty he would have had his day in court but pleading guilty means you are admitting to the wrongdoing.

      8 years is fair and just for murdering a man, even though he robbed your store.

      • Keely Swan

        I understand both of your points. However, just because something is a law doesn’t mean it’s reasonable in light of common sense. There are a shit-load of idiotic laws on the books. If a criminal chooses to live a life of crime, robs someone, and gets shot and killed in the process (front, back, makes no difference), then boo-hoo. That’s the risk they take and the price they pay. It would be a strong deterrent for would-be criminals not to rob anyone, with the understanding that they might not make it back alive. But if you have mindless laws that protect fleeing criminals (in ANY capacity), it’s only going to embolden them to know their victims’ hands are tied in terms how they are legally allowed to defend themselves.

        That’s just stupid.

        • Naos

          You can’t just kill someone when they are not a threat. So, yeah, it makes a clear difference.

          • Keely Swan

            Being robbed with a gun pointed in your face IS a damn threat.

          • Naos

            Not while they’re running away, it’s not. Especially since the person in question was not armed.

          • Keely Swan

            Then you shouldn’t rob people. Period. That’s the risk you take when you live a life of crime and prey on the public. No tears of sympathy from me.

          • Naos

            It’s not a matter a sympathy, it’s a matter of the law. It’s not a threat, and therefore, you cannot legally kill someone. Being a vigilante isn’t legal. You can’t just go around killing everyone who’s committed a crime.

            Also, sorry, crime is inevitable in a capitalistic society. Because, with capitalism, there is poverty. And with poverty, comes crime.

          • Keely Swan

            Oops! I should have known I’m talking to a tree-hugging liberal commie. How ridiculous to scapegoat crime and poverty on capitalism, the very system that has created the largest middle-class in human history. There are 3rd-world hellholes all over the world based on non-capitalist systems that have QUADRUPLE the amount of crime and poverty compared to wealthy/capitalistic/western societies. So begone with your anti-capitalist bullshit. I’m not about to get ensnared in a pointless economic debate with a Marxist.

            I repeat, just because it’s a law doesn’t mean shit. There are a lot of dumb laws on the books. Google “dumb laws in America” and you’ll find a long list of ’em – page and pages long.

            You rob, you die (or at least run that risk). At least that’s what the law SHOULD be within a society based on practicality, common sense, and security of the general public.

          • Naos

            I’m not in any way a communist. I’m a capitalist, sorry. But to imply capitalism has no flaws that lead to inequality is asinine. Capitalism is literally a system made for economic inequality. Take more socialist countries like Canada, or Sweden, they do not have similar issues to the United States. The “3rd-world hellholes”, often have cultural and government issues, not an issue of the economic system in question.

          • Kristen Loomis

            Its honestly very simple. If you don’t like the law, contact your congressional representative and start a dialogue to change the law. Commenting here about the idiocy of the language of the current laws really does nothing but raise your blood pressure.

          • Keely Swan

            Newsflash, Kristen: That’s what public forums like this are for – to debate about political topics, etc. Seems you’re missing the point.

          • Kristen Loomis

            Yes, totally missing the point while you complain about the laws…. Okay.

    • Naos

      By law, this was not a justifiable homicide. No clear danger is present when someone is fleeing.

  • What the Hell!/// Get a decent lawyer! A lawyer that will call the judge and threaten to murder his family!

    • Naos

      That’s what a decent lawyer is? Someone who threatens people? Please.

      • Hey! It works I hear. The judge should be removed from office, and if had sixty knives stuck in? He would probably be deserving it.

        • Naos

          It doesn’t matter if it works, it’s asinine. And actually threatening to murder someone’s family is against the law. Especially since the judge followed the law, ruling on it correctly.

          • Well, I was going to post a video from Colin Patrick Flaherty’s Youtube channel, from April25, but it was censored. The theme of the video is that black crime is over the top, especially violent crime, 100 times more than any other group. And the answer is self defense. That person was sentenced to prison for self defense and the judge is the one who should be in prison. Was the judge black?

          • Naos

            It wasn’t self-defense. No threat was immediate. Therefore, it’s murder. Just stop the racism. It’s a class issue, not a racial issue. And please, I’m not going to trust anything from Flaherty, that clearly biased, racist, tool.

          • My mistake, or this website’s. The video shows a store clerk shooting a man pointing a gun on her. It mislead me into thinking the case was about her and that she was sentenced. I guess the video and the story are unrelated.

          • Naos

            It’s the website, but it wasn’t a mistake. Media often does this to attract people and get them to follow their agenda.

          • Well, I can’t link to Colin Flaherty’s latest You Tube video, because this website doesn’t allow it for some reason, but it turns out that the shoplifter did attack the store owner and he did have a gun. I was right about him having an incompetent lawyer, and was right about the judge being a total POS.

          • Naos

            Since you people love Fox News:

            “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

            The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

            Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

            http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

            Also, no. The judge made an appropriate sentence for a guilty plead.

          • You have no clue about the amount black violence and criminality that goes on in this country, especially against Asians. In San Francisco, blacks make up 6% of the population and 85% of the violent crime in San Francisco is committed by blacks against Asians. You really should check out Colin’s website. Today, on his his first video titled ‘The Whisperer in the Darkness’, you’ll see black men run up behind two white guys, knock them in the head, and rob them. In another video posted today, you’ll see a black riot in San Francisco’s finest shopping mall. There’s something really messed up about those people. And what happened to that shop owner is a travesty.

          • Naos

            It has nothing to do with race. Can you prove to me black people have a biological tendency for crime? No. Correlation does not imply causation. More likely, it’s a class issue, not a race issue. Asian’s are on average, richer than every other race in the country.

            Colin clearly has a bias, and heavily racist rhetoric. I bet you wouldn’t have made this argument from say, the 50s-90s (and sooner) when white-on-black crime was far more prominent.

            No, what happened to the shop keeper was not a travesty. You don’t shoot an unarmed man in cold blood after compliance.

          • You just don’t know. You’re in denial, delusion, and deceit about race and black people. Yes, there are some excellent black people, but as a demographic, there is something wrong going on with them. Malls are closing because of black mob violence. Cities are falling into ruin because of rampant black criminality, and the denial, delusion, and deceit of politicians and media people, and willfully blind Leftist types such as yourself. Don’t watch those videos because you don’t want to destroy your delusion. You probably think that George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin, and that Officer Darren Wilson murdered Michael Brown, and I would not want you to be disabused of those delusions.

          • Naos

            Again, can you prove this is a race issue and not a class issue? No, you can’t. I could recommend a video from ADoseOfBuckley for the Zimmerman issue, but that would just completely destroy your argument there.

            You literally provided no argument except “it’s all black people”. I’ve provided straightforward reasons, and you didn’t even bother to counter them.

          • Yes, it has been proven. It’s called Routine Activity Theory, not to be confused with Critical Race Theory.
            Critical Race Theory states that blacks are victims of relentless white racism and that explains and excuses everything. CRT is a provable lie.
            Routine Activity Theory states that a white person can go into certain black areas of a city, e.g. Chicago, Gary, Philadelphia, Detroit, etc. and that white person can routinely expect to be assaulted, beaten, raped, robbed, and or murdered. RAT has been testified to in court by a Harvard professor and helped a victim’s family collect $32 Million from the city of Chicago.
            You will not look at Colin’s website. That’s willful blindness and ignorance.

          • Naos

            Oh, how wrong you are. Routine Activity Theory is mainly for explaining crimes such as piracy, corporate crime, and copyright infringement. Sociologists disagree with Routine Activity Theory in a lot of violent crime, and Routine Activity Theory does not at all imply that it only applies to black people. Again, you haven’t proven that it’s psychology or biologically present in black people solely for being black, and therefore, you cannot confirm it’s a race issue. Flaherty is obviously biased, only focusing on black crime and attacking liberal media. I have never seen him go after a conservative source, and his ignorance of white people’s wrongdoings basically implies they’re angels.

            Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Report database, in 2010 58.6% of reported hate crime offenders were white, 18.4% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were Native Americans. The report states that among hate crime offenses motivated by race, 70% were composed of anti-black bias, while 17.7% were of anti-white bias, and 5% were of anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias.

            So, how do you take into account that most hate crime is placed on blacks rather than whites?

          • The statistics are totally false. Polar Bear Hunting is a black term for the knock out game. It’s called Polar Bear Hunting because the victims are white. Of the thousands of attacks on whites, some of them fatal, I don’t recall one hate charge having been filed against a black perpetrator. The one time that a white kid played the knock out game on an old black man, the white assailant was charged with a hate crime. The hate crime/thought crime game is used almost exclusively against white defendants.

          • Naos

            Oh, so the FBI is wrong? So what is your right statistics? Fox News? Where are your statistics from reliable sources?

          • I listened to a dose of Buckley. He’s wrong. He a block head Leftist.
            You want to know the truth about Trayvon’s death? Watch the video of George Zimmerman walking down the scene the next day with police. Zimmerman is not lying; he’s telling the truth.
            Trayvon was a menace to society. He attacked Zimmerman. Zimmerman killed Trayvon. Zimmerman prevented future crimes and may have saved lives. Black men, 6% of the population, commit more that 50% of the murders in this country.
            Buckley is rolling as I type. He’s a loon.

          • Naos

            Wrong. Neighbourhood watch is not supposed to following what he thinks are suspicious people around his neighbourhood. How can you trust Zimmerman when you can’t even hear Martin’s side of the story? Oh, right, because you’d trust anyone before you’d trust a black person.

          • Zimmerman had every to follow Martin, especially if he thought he was committing a crime or about to commit a crime. Zimmerman would have been within his rights to walk up to Martin and inquire about what he was doing. And Martin would have been within his rights to tell Zimmerman to screw off. But that’s not what happened. Martin punched Zimmerman and proceeded to do an MMA beatdown on him. That’s a felony, attempted murder.. Zimmerman had a right to defend himself, and that’s what he did.

          • Naos

            Actually, following someone with outright knowing they’re committing a crime can be classified as stalking and/or harassment. And actually, Florida has a Stand Your Ground law. Simply, if you’re are feeling threatened (as Martin was by Zimmerman), then it is justifiable for them to defend themselves. So if it went to the courts, Martin’s actions would have been considered justified under this law.

          • If you look at the video of Trayvon Martin from the convenience store wherein he bought his skittles, he towers over the clerk. He’s a tall menacing looking black dude. No one is going to stalk him. The events happened exactly as Zimmerman told the police on the day following his killing of Trayvon Martin. If you want to believe the false narrative that charlatans like Al Sharpton were pushing, that’s your choice.

          • Naos

            Martin’s 5’11”, Zimmerman’s 5’7”. Not a huge difference. But you know what is a big difference? Weight. Zimmerman has a 30 pound advantage on Martin. In the Ultimate Fighting Championship, or UFC, that would be a weight class difference of two, and three in boxing.

          • Well, I would bet that Trayvon could slam dunk a basketball and that Zimmerman couldn’t come within a foot of the hoop.
            Did you see the girl, Trayvon’s alleged girlfriend, testify in court? She was, as John Derbyshire put it, 300 lbs. of ghetto attitude.
            All you’re doing here is denying reality. You’re denying the reality that there is a class of people in this country who are black and commit all kinds of terrible crimes, and that occasionally one of them gets the tables turned on him and his would be victim becomes his killer.

          • Naos

            That’s irrelevant to the point. In a fight, height matters far less than weight does. Hence why professional fighting often places participants of similar weights, not similar heights. Who cares about the attitude of the person, or even what their weight is? Now, you’re trying to make little tangents to justify your completely racist argument.

            You’ve provided no direct evidence to this case (or Martin’s for that matter), indicating that your argument is correct. All you’ve pretty much said is black people are wrong, and basically can’t be trusted.

          • The evidence was introduced into the murder trial of Zimmerman, and he was found not guilty because he was not guilty. Trayvon Martin was a thug, he attacked a man and the man killed him in self-defense. That’s the truth, but truth does matter to Leftists, and that’s what you are.
            You love Obama. You were for Bernie Sanders. You were probably thrilled when Scalise was shot by one of your fellow travelers. And Anderson Cooper, teabagger, is probably your kind of guy, him or Don Lemon. Your a CNN man for sure.

          • Naos

            The courts are always right, by your logic. Which isn’t at all true. There have been plenty of cases where people were wrongfully charged or wrongfully acquitted.

            911 told him to not get out of the SUV, nor to follow him. He wrongfully disobeyed, so he put himself into that situation. You can’t go around following anyone you want, practically stalking them, kill them, and claim it’s self-defense. However, Martin followed the Stand Your Ground law in Florida. He felt threatened, and therefore, he had the right to defend himself. Zimmerman was not innocent. He’s been charged with speeding, his wife was charged with perjury. He was charged with felony assault. So I’d say the real thug is Zimmerman here.

            “You love Obama. You were for Bernie Sanders. You were probably thrilled when Scalise was shot by one of your fellow travelers. And Anderson Cooper, teabagger, is probably your kind of guy, him or Don Lemon. Your a CNN man for sure.” You’re making declarative statements without any sort of evidence to back it up. I could do the same to you. You love Trump and George W. Bush. You couldn’t care less about poor people. And you’re racist. The latter which was proven.

          • You didn’t not correct any of my declarative statements, so I’m confident I nailed it.
            I was opposed to Trump in the primaries; I was for Ted Cruz.
            I do believe that the Corrupt Washington Establishment set Trump up as the nominee so that he could lose to Clinton. It was the same game plan that put McCain up as the nominee in 2008. They had the tape of trump saying “Grab them by the pussy”, and that was suppose to sink Trump. It didn’t sink him. I’m glad he won.
            As for George W. Bush, I believe he could have been a great President, but his signing McCain-Feingold into law, and his sitting on his hands while the GOP nominated McCain, and his defense of Islam calling it a “Religion of Peace”, makes him one of the worst.

          • Naos

            There was no reason to really correct, since no matter what, you hate anyone who isn’t conservative, but fine.

            So you were for Trump, I was right. Let’s see what you were wrong on, hmm?

            I don’t love Obama. But I certainly like him better than either Trump or Bush Jr. I did not support anyone in the election, but if I did, it likely would have been Jill Stein of the Green Party (because having a two-partisan government is inane), but it’s stupid to vote for a third-party, because you are going to lose no matter what, and due to the electoral system, unless you’re in a swing state, your vote does not really matter and you’re voting for either Clinton or Trump.

            Regarding Scalise, I wasn’t thrilled. Was it wrong? Yes. But I don’t give too much fucks when people I have no connection to and is not necessarily affecting me die. So I didn’t care. Saying I’m a “CNN man” is hypocritical, considering I follow news content from both sides from The Young Turks to Fox News, when all you likely follow is conservative content. Calling Anderson Cooper names doesn’t really make your case, and I don’t know that much about him myself, except he leans left, and anyone who’s not conservative is basically the reincarnation of Satan to you people.

            And so you don’t disagree conservatives don’t care about the poor. And you likely hate Islam and want to basically kill them all. And think Christianity is peaceful despite its constant references to stoning adulterers, homosexuals, and rebellious teenagers.

  • Naos

    For people who are saying: “oh, we can’t protect ourselves now?”, well, the thief was apparently unarmed and fleeing. In that case, you call the police, it’s not your job. You’re not supposed to be some vigilante taking justice into your own hands. Unless your and others’ lives are immediately in danger, deadly force is not justified. Therefore, this was not a justifiable homicide. He was sentenced correctly by the law.

  • Margo Arnesen

    Such BS. Washington for you — all the freaks can block ambulances and cause people with heart attacks to die from delays getting to hospitals, but this poor guy defending himself against a POS like that gets sent up the river??? Glad as hell I left that state and came to Texas where people have some sense of decency and brains left!

    • Renaissance_nerd

      He shot a man in the back as he was attempting to flee. He pled guilty, those are the breaks. The legal definition of self defense is only to use enough force to stop the imminent threat. A man running away from you is not an imminent threat. I agree 1000% with the judge. There was no reason to use lethal force. Had he plead not guilty he would have had his day in court but pleading guilty means you are admitting to the wrongdoing.

      8 years is fair and just for murdering a man, even though he robbed your store

      • Veronika Smith

        How much is David Brock or George Soros paying you disgusting shills?

        • Renaissance_nerd

          yea… read the history of my comments to find out what a “shill” i am. I swear some people have no brains and just spout nonsense in their echo chambers.

          • Veronika Smith

            Your history is filled with spamming the same fucking comment. Dumbass faggot, that literally shilling. kill yourself please

          • OpusX

            Calling someone a faggot on a gay man’s blog? Classy….

          • Veronika Smith

            Yeah except he calls himself faggot all the time. Nice try though, terrorist. Get rekt

          • OpusX

            go fuck your rancid whore mother

          • Veronika Smith

            LOL so when I prove you wrong and I have a point, thats your response?

            Kill yourself immediately, you partially aborted fetus

          • Veronika Smith
  • Veronika Smith

    No no no. Fuck this. Fuck all of this. We have to start a campaign to free Kim and disbar this judge. Think if this happend to you. #FreeMinSikKim

    • Renaissance_nerd

      He shot a man in the back as he was attempting to flee. He pled guilty, those are the breaks. The legal definition of self defense is only to use enough force to stop the imminent threat. A man running away from you is not an imminent threat. I agree 1000% with the judge. There was no reason to use lethal force. Had he plead not guilty he would have had his day in court but pleading guilty means you are admitting to the wrongdoing.

      8 years is fair and just for murdering a man, even though he robbed your store.

      • Veronika Smith

        Spamming the same comment all over this thread. Kill yourself

  • Deplorable In Libtard Austin

    Blame the libtard idiot prosocuting POS lawyer. This should have not even gone to a grand jury. He did Washington a favor.

  • faye guinn

    This is unbelievable. The judge didn’t care one bit about this man and his wife and all that they have been through. The man did the world a favor by killing this creep.

    • Naos

      The judge’s feelings are not supposed to matter. Ruling on the law correctly is what matters.

  • InterestedParty30

    Appeal. BLACK CRIMINALITY IS WAY OUT OF CONTROL in this country and DA’s more and more, especisely if black, are outright violating the rights of law abiding citizens to protect themselves. I THINK THIS WOULD MAKE A GREAT CIVIL RIGHTS CASE FOR THE DEFENDANT WHO IS VICTIMIZED DAILY BY LAWLESS AND VIOLENT BLACK!

    • Naos

      Wow, a bit racist much? The store owner here was NOT law-abiding.

  • OldNYFirefighter

    Since he was fleeing the scene he was no longer an immanent threat & why he was charged. That is pretty much the same in all states.

  • Jane Shelley

    SOCIALIST AGITATORS SHOULD BE LINED UP AND SHOT! THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF OUR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. THEY HAVE TAUGHT OUR CHILDREN TO BE MORONS BY FOLLOWING THE LEADER INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING REASON AND COMMON SENSE.

  • Audrey Thomas

    Mason needed to die. The judge is an ass. I would have enjoyed being the one to kill Mason. When Kim gets out of prison, he should finish off Mason’s family and friends for associating with a known child rapist and someone who ruined his life.

    • Naos

      Yup, more murder. That’s the answer. The judge ruled on the law, sorry, bitch.

      • Audrey Thomas

        The judge is an ass. We need to get rid of these criminals since those who swear to protect us from them refuse to.

        • Naos

          Yet, he followed the law correctly. Sorry, he doesn’t act like on his feelings like you.

          • Audrey Thomas

            The leftists in power have adequately shown that the law doesn’t matter any more. Right is right.

          • Naos

            Sorry, there is no objective right, hun. I’m sorry, what “leftists”, showed the law doesn’t matter?

  • Paul Bryant

    He shot a coone so what!

  • Lbt

    Asian acts American and gets prison for it.

  • Sean Stoops

    another libtard judge making a misjudgment.

    • Naos

      Please explain how it’s a misjudgment. You can’t kill someone who isn’t a threat. That’s murder.

  • Renaissance_nerd

    it’s really pathetic and sad how many people feel that just because someone commits a crime all the crimes you commit while trying to stop him is forgiven. No sorry it doesn’t work that way. Vigilantism is illegal in this country.

  • duder1897

    Ridiculous. He should have been given a medal.

  • Veronika Smith
    • Renaissance_nerd

      Thats the 3rd time you’ve insulted me for no reason. Stay classy

      • Veronika Smith

        No reason? You are a faggot shill pedo and you are spamming your shill bullshit all over this thread. Kill yourself

        • Renaissance_nerd

          You have any evidenec at all that i am A, a faggot, B, a shill and C, a pedo?

          or are you engaging in Ad-hominem because you can’t address my points intelligently? Yea thought so.

          • Veronika Smith

            Are you fucking retarded? Evidence for shilling? Do you not see my screenshot? Kill yourself ISIS supporter

          • Naos

            Bitch, do you even know what shill means?

          • Renaissance_nerd

            now im an ISIS supporter? ok you got me, good troll

          • Veronika Smith

            Yeah thats it, just keep ignoring my screenshot. Ask for evidence, see evidence, then ignore. Typical liberal

          • Naos

            You are such a failure of a human being.

          • Renaissance_nerd

            How is that evidence of anything other than me posting the same thing within like 2 minutes. you really are clueless arnt you?

          • Veronika Smith

            Oh look a shill denying he is a shill despite proof. Kill yourself immediately

          • Renaissance_nerd

            The nut house let you have your weekend on the internet again? good behavior i’m assuming?

        • Naos

          And you’re spamming the “kill yourself” rhetoric.

  • Glock

    I support the store owner! His lawyer sucks!

    • Renaissance_nerd

      you can support the store owner all you want, doesn’t change the fact that in the eyes of the law he committed murder.

  • drdov

    Spanaway seems like another town ravaged by dark purples

  • aVet

    what a travesty….but then again Washington State would probably favor ISIS over the USA……as to the Judge….may he be robbed someday!

  • Jan Hellsund

    Maybe some profiling would have prevented this tragedy.

  • drdov

    Washington State is pathetic

  • Don Zski

    President Trump, pardon this man!!!

    • Jack Bailey

      Exactly. The scum can’t have minor victories.

  • lurker

    are the family Korean?

  • David Islay

    He gets 8 yrs for shooting a thug criminal that threatened his life who would have then be free to come back better prepared to harm him. I would say that was being in fear of your life enough to justify shooting the criminal whether in the back, leg,forehead. He obviously had a poor lawyer. Planned Parenthood takes over 300,000 innocent defenseless lives and they get MILLIONS of tax payers funds and no prison time. Our priorities are truly messed up. With no police in sight and with an armed criminal (who already threatened lives) about to escape to come back and harm him or his family or harm other innocent citizens, it just does not seem fair at all to punish this man. I hope petitions are started immediately to get President Trump to pardon him. Our former fraud in office ordered our police to release illegals who had records of being rapists, murderers ,drug dealers, and violent gang members released back into our society with no control over where they went. I hope I don’t get stopped in Washington State ( or Oregon or California) because I know I will be headed for jail for carrying my weapon to protect my family and me, despite my right to do so. That right is protected under our Constitution which all these State lawmakers and enforcers swear an oath to protect.

    • Naos

      Because states can have their own laws, that don’t correlate with federal? For example, marijuana is illegal under federal law. You can be arrested on a federal level, even if it’s legal in your state. And just because it’s a right, doesn’t mean the killing tools can’t be regulated.

      • David Islay

        The Federal Government has to comply with the Constitution as well. Just because they create a law, doesn’t make it right. Do you see the enumerated power for the Federal Government in the Constitution for their designating any plant as illegal?

        Marijuana should not be “illegal”. There is not a real and justified reason. If our senior, new AG would spend a little time with Israeli information on the plant and its uses, then spend a little time with Israeli lawmakers and enforcers he might see reality instead of the 1930’s public announcement warnings that are totally not a reality.

        As for the “killing tools” being regulated, well I simply cannot understand why the Federal Government and State Governments don’t understand what “Shall not infringe” means.

        • Naos

          It’s not infringing on your rights, but hey, by that logic, let’s just give everyone weapons. Good plan, right? No. Giving tools of murder to everyone is completely stupid.

          Marijuana, like cigarettes, contain carcinogens. But unlike, cigarettes, it is not far into American culture to cause a issue like when Prohibition happened.

          • David Islay

            If you cannot see the reason for recognizing a natural right to bear arms to protect yourself and familyalong with the Constitutional protection of that right by telling the government NOT doing anything to interfere with that right (infringing), then you may wish to be in a socialist/communist/Islamist dictatorship. If someone does not have a desire to have a weapon of any kind, they don’t have to. As far as a “killing tool” is concerned, check the FBI stats on killings with guns and killings with other weapons. The reality is , I am trained and could easily kill you with a ball point pen. Do you wish to outlaw ball point pens because they are “killing tools”?
            The cannabis plant which produces many many health saving qualities does not have to be smoked, which is the producer of carcinogens. The oleander plant, which is planted on most of the highways right of ways in California, is one of the most poisonous plants in the world. The same personal restraint from chewing on the leaves of the oleander is available to people who choose not to smoke marijuana but use the cannabis plant for medicinal purposes.

          • Naos

            Ball point pens were not created with the purpose of killing. Firearms were created solely for killing, hence why I called killing tools. Like swords. But hey, I should be able to watch around all I want with a sword on hand.

            Let’s take Japan, who practically bans people from owning firearms or swords. Whats their crime rate and murder rate? Far lower than the US. In 2014, they had 6 fire-arm related homicides. In the US? Well, according to the FBI, there was over 8,000, so it’s clear there is a problem.

            I’m not really against medicinal use, however, I am against anyone who uses the drug to get shitfaced. Anyone who uses drugs not for medicinal use I’m going to think is a stupid fuck.

          • David Islay

            Firearms were not, however, created solely for killing people. The point I made with the ball point pens is that the killing is not the fault of the gun, but the fault of the shooter. Yes we no doubt have much higher violent crime rate than Japan and there are multiple reasons for that. We have about 3 times the population and we have more states that have banned the death penalty. I don’t have the statistics for Japan but your stipulated “6 fire-arm related homicides in 2014” is off by a ton. not that that denies the large gap. I think when you look at the way we punish criminals, the Japanese who have about 1/3 of our population execute as many criminals as we do — not percentage, but actual executions. Japan also has a much longer history and most of that a country dealing with ruthless Emperor and dictatorship. How many deaths did we have in Orlando Florida? those happened because we ignored our own laws and allowed hundreds of thousands of people with an ideology to overthrow our Government and replace our Constitution with their Sharia. I bring that up because none of those killed, nor their friends had guns to protect themselves from the bad guys who did. Look around the world and see places like Europe, UK and Scandinavia and see what killing tools are being used. Do you believe all the rapes and assaults that are happening over there would happen here? maybe in California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, New York — but not in Texas, whether it turns blue or not. Texans as a general group prefer to keep their natural right to protect themselves. Protecting a population about a third the size of ours in a country you could fit into California and still have room to spare isn’t as easy to make comparisons. We have documented over 11 Million illegals in the USA, and many hard core criminals who used killing tools in their crimes were set loose by the obama administration– loose and unwatched to go anywhere they chose in our country. As an aside — Japan does not allow that ideology I mention before that our laws say are prohibited from entry but we have an estimated 8 million here now. That ideology is prohibited to set up shop in Japan. Anyway– you are entitled to choose not to have a killing tool, and I support your right not to have one. If you were my neighbor threatened by bad guys and needed help quicker than the 4 to 15 minute wait for the police, you could count on me to risk my life to help you whether at that time you agreed with me having the killing tool or not.

          • Naos

            Yes, they were. They were a product of war designed for killing. And no, the 6 was correct, BBC and The Japan Times both concur with the six gun deaths in 2014. Not counting suicides, accidentals, etc. (which would be far higher because Japan has a high suicide rate). Even if you multiply Japan by 3, you get nowhere near the number of those deaths in the United States.

            And no, Sharia is not law anyone in the United States, so don’t bring up that. Europe has other problems not stemming from a gun-related issue. They have close proximity to those countries. Let loose by the Obama administration? Obama deported millions of illegal immigrants. Plus, most crime is committed by whites and blacks. Not Hispanics, so there’s that.

            Japan does clearly allow that ideology. Hell, there’s been Mosques since the 1930s, if not sooner in Japan. But ignorance is bliss, I guess. So there is no excuse. They banned guns entirely originally, along with swords, as the Firearm and Sword Possession Control Law of 1958 would have done. They may have laxed it a bit farther, but it’s so difficult to obtain one that most don’t even bother. If they do want one, they’ll either join the military or the police (the only ones guaranteed to firearms). Even the Yakuza (you could call them the Japanese mob), don’t use firearms. Neither do the police often, relying more on martial arts such as judo and karate.

          • David Islay

            They were using firearms for hunting, so when a manufacturer produced a weapon designed for hunting, it was not just designed for war. and for some people that is all they use a firearm for. As for the 6 deaths, maybe the BBC and Japan Times need to re-think that. They themselves indicate deaths by firearms at a .06/100,000 population and Japan has a population of 127 million or so. Anyway it is not that important in consideration of the large amount of deaths in US. I will agree in that area, US has worse statistics. Of course mixed in with the numbers of criminals who murdered people are the deaths of criminals who were prevented from killing anyone else because the victim was armed with a killing tool of his/her own. Yes obama a few years into his second term deported so many that La Raza and other organizations went after him. However in 2013 he had released 104,000 illegals with felonies of murder , rape and robberies. They were released into the general population with no control of where they went. As for the Japanese, I read an article from the Japan newspapers that the government of Japan had refused to accept UN demands for them to accept refugees and Japan would not allow entry to muslim so-called “refugees”, and that they were no longer allowing further building of mosques. They only have a little more than 2 dozen mosques in their entire country. Texas, last count had 166 and counting. US has over 2,000. And if you want to believe that Sharia isn’t being practiced in the US, tell that to the 1/2 million recipients of clitorectomy operations; tell that to people in Irving, Texas or Dearborn, Michigan, or the friends of young female college student at Arizona State University whose father drove back and forth over her in order to save the honor of his family because his daughter was dressing to westernized. From what I can see, we agree on some of the problems here, but definitely don’t agree on the solutions. You sound as though you would feel more accepting to a socialist dictatorship — and I prefer the Republic with a small Federal government with restricted powers under a Constitution that does reserve the power to the people and protects their individual liberties. The fact that crimes, racial hate, and lack of true caring have risen to this horrible stage is part of the process followed by folks like Stalin & Hitler, aided and abetted by apathy of citizens. I’ve enjoyed our conversation Naos — and thank you for being civil. It is refreshing anymore on the internet to have people disagree without resorting to swearing and vile name calling! 🙂

          • Naos

            “Of course mixed in with the numbers of criminals who murdered people are the deaths of criminals who were prevented from killing anyone else because the victim was armed with a killing tool of his/her own.” Incorrect, it’s gun homicides, not gun deaths. Murders. Two different things.

            What non-conservative leaning source said Obama did that? As far as I’m aware, most Obama released were arrested for drugs. Technically, crimes that had no true victims.

            Regarding Japan, that is wrong. They accept a very low number of refugees, but still accept refugees nonetheless. Why would they to build any more mosques when the majority of country are atheists? You don’t that many mosques when there’s so few Muslims, compared to America where there is millions. In America that number is expected to sharply grow, in Japan, that isn’t really the case.

            Saying Sharia is practiced, that could technically be true, however it’s not a legal action, and saying it will be is nothing but irrational fear. I’m sorry, what country have I spoken positive about aside from Japan here, which has a heavy capitalist society? What implies I’d be accepting of a dictatorship? Also, might I note countries heavily influenced by socialism today are not dictatorships? If you think Justin Trudeau’s a dictator, you must have a very open definition on what a dictator is. To you, it seems like any country that has any government larger than what you’ve described is a dictatorship. And I’m sorry, I see it as a vastly different way. I don’t want states to basically be treated as different countries.

            Regarding the last part, I often don’t try any sort of that behaviour unless the other person engages in the behaviour first. I’m not going to try attacking people for their beliefs. But on the matter of swearing, I don’t normally do it as an attack on anyone, but rather for effect.

          • David Islay

            Washington Examiner journalist Paul Bedard — of 19,723 criminal illegals, 208 had been convicted of murder, 900 for sex crimes and 12,307 DUI. The former AG of Texas reported that of the 104,000 illegals with criminal records 196 had homicide convictions. Arrested for possession of drugs for self consumption has a little less fear for society, although addicts often commit crimes, some violent, in order to be able to have access to the drugs of their addiction.

            As for the refugees, the Telegraph from UK reported, I think in May of this year that Japan had rejected more than 99% of the refugees. You are correct in asking Why would the Japanese build any more mosques when the majority of the country are atheists? The answer is — they didn’t build any of the 30 mosques that are there now, the muslims did. I cannot answer for the Japanese for their decision to limit the building of mosques, but it may be that they understand how in other countries the mosque is a place that many imams preach hate and violence toward kafirs or infindels and encourage the jihadists. Mosques in Belgium, Germany and France have been closed after policy raided and confiscated massive collections of weapons and bomb making items. While I disagree with your assessment regarding refugees in Japan, I will say that I agree that for the most part, the Japanese appear to be content with a culture that promotes respect even though its own long history has some rocky discourse. As an aside –I have a good friend (ex girlfriend) from Sacramento that is Japanese and have attended some Buddhist community events– very peaceful, loving and respectful gatherings, and although I was not of their faith, I was treated as a member of their community.

            Dictatorships — to me are those countries who are governed by a person or small group who rule and make rules to the detriment of the civil rights of the country’s citizens. Trudeau is being allowed to head in that direction. His personal decision to invite muslims into Canada unvetted is similar to the wannabe dictator with obama who made arbitrary changes in law and was allowed to get away with it. Some of his nasty deeds are now being undone by a partially emboldened congress. Canada has recently introduced and passed laws which violate a citizens right to freedom of expression. Try being overheard saying that in this country raping is a crime but from the muslim world it is acceptable. Try saying that you think anyone who takes a 6yr old female as a bride and rapes her when she is 9 is not just a pedophile rapist but a horrible person. Do that in Canada and you will now be arrested for “hate speech”. It is my opinion that when the government controls your speech you are headed down the path to a dictatorship. When the US Government interferes with States rights in the education system and blackmails States to follow its definition of what to teach and how, or lose “federal funds”, to me, that is heading down the path of dictatorship. The republic form of government that uses a small central federal government to aid the sovereign states who have united and follow a unique Constitution that recognizes and protects the natural rights of individuals, is like nothing else anywhere on this planet. We have strayed in stages, slowly at first and then wide open over the last 10 yrs to become the screwed up nation we are now with all of the nasty problems we have allowed. However, I firmly believe that pouring us into a One World Order is giving up our civil rights to be led by a dictatorship.

            As far as the “irrational fear” of Sharia — it is not a fear on my part and not an irrational thought to warn of it. I was born in the UK but left before the muslim invasion of so-called “refugees”. There are now over 3,000 mosques in the UK. 50 Sharia Councils, 130 Sharia Courts. “No-Go” zones in muslim enclaves. If you check the US today you will find the start of the same method of invade, build, overcome the population, install Sharia, eliminate all other religions. Have you been to Dearborn, Michigan lately? They even have yellow posted signs showing the “no-go” areas patrolled by their own Sharia police. So, NO, i do not have an irrational fear of Sharia, I have a natural concern over the apathy of the people in their ignorance of Islam. All the LGBTQ folks that hold up signs saying “We stand with our muslim brothers and sisters” would have a rude awakening when their brothers and sisters took over and installed Sharia. They would be hunted down and executed. None of the dangers I see with Sharia and muslims are new. We have 1400 years of barbaric history to look at, along with the last 16 years of intensified terrorism. We currently have over 71 pages of muslim organizations here in the US. Just part of their strategy to invade a country have 4 to 10 times the number of children than their “host” country’s residents, build the population, get elected to local government and beyond. We already have two Muslims in Congress and Arizona has a female muslim lawyer going to run for Congress next year. If you have never read the Koran, sira, hadith and Sharia it is available in Iranian and Saudi Arabian approved English translations. For a good review and analysis of the Koran, try Robert Spencer’s “The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran”.

            Once again Naos, thank you for your adult conversation! best wishes in the USA!

          • Naos

            Yes, they rejected tons of refugees, but saying they have zero percent like you were implying a pretty asinine notion. And actually, it wasn’t the Muslims who built it. The one in Kobe, for example, who designed by a architect who was born in Czechoslovakia. Jan Josef Švagr, the architect in question, also designed several catholic churches and schools. And once again, they limited the construction because there was no valid reason for there to be anymore with such a small Muslim population. And please, preaching hate and violence? The Yakuza are still around. The equivalent of the Japanese mob. And most of the mosques in Japan don’t preach hate and violence. They offer Arabic language classes, cooking classes, and the Masjid (the Muslim place of worship), is open to non-Muslims. The mosque in Fukuoka, along with allowing non-Muslims’ entrance, will also allow them to attend the prayers, and discuss cultural issues, even those regarding Islam. If they’re allowing non-Muslims to do that, I honestly doubt they’re preaching hate and violence there.

            “The Japanese appear to be content with a culture that promotes respect even though its own long history has some rocky discourse.” Because other countries don’t have similar issues. I can’t name many that didn’t have terrible times in history. Certainly not the US. Maybe Canada, since by the time they were independent, there wasn’t really a huge issue going on in the country. And seriously, Trudeau and Obama are not the issues. It seems like you and other conservatives will hate anyone who is a liberal leader (I cannot name a single liberal leader you people didn’t think was pretty much the reincarnation of Satan since Kennedy). That is not the way the “hate speech” law works in Canada. Especially since, it wasn’t a bill, it was a motion. A slightly different thing, but I can understand the confusion. So far, you’re not required to do anything of the sort. And even if you were, it’s mainly just condemning religious intolerance and discrimination of Islam. For example, hating someone solely for being Muslim, or not hiring someone for being Muslim.

            “When the US Government interferes with States rights in the education system and blackmails States to follow its definition of what to teach and how, or lose “federal funds”,”

            Because why should the government be forced to give state’s money when it is not what they said to teach? So, what the government’s just made to give money and that’s it? I’m sorry, I don’t want, nor should, for example, religion be taught in schools. You shouldn’t also be told to pray or anything of the sort, at least in public education. Two Muslims in congress, who really cares? It’s nice to see diversity, rather than a bunch old white Christian men. Oh, but when everyone was Christian, it was okay?

            I’m not going to trust Robert Spencer, his views are clearly biased, and like a lot of conservatives, he just basically wants to kill an entire religion.

          • DefiantDeity

            Why not? Woman are trying to demand free birth control and free abortions so why cannot I have free ammo and firearms?

          • Naos

            There’s a difference between birth control and abortions, and military weapons made to end the lives of other human beings.

          • DefiantDeity

            You’re right there is actually a massive difference. Firearms are a right that is protected by the Constitution and the other garbage you listed is not. Our taxes should never be used to pay for abortions or birth control. 10 bucks a month is a lot of money for most liberals but they only have themselves to blame. Perhaps that liberal arts or gender studies degree was not a good decision after all. So because you are screw ups you expect the rest of us to pay for your stupidity because you cannot afford birth control and being responsible for your actions is out of the question?

            Assessing your life and coming to the conclusion (the same conclusion the rest of the wold has come to about you pathetic low lives) which is you and your ilk are major f-ups. If you cannot afford BC then maybe, just maybe it would be wise to not partake in actions that may lead to a pregnancy? Wait, how dare you be denied whatever pleases you right? You deserve to do whatever want and when your actions inevitably lead to bad things like an unwanted pregnancy then you once again expect us responsible people to bail you out. I say f no, you all need to take responsibility for your pathetic actions. Pay for your own abortion, or have the little bastard but we should not be forced to provide it food or healthcare with our tax dollars. IF the child’s idiotic loser parents cannot afford to take it to the doctor or feed it then I guess it dies. Either way, not my problem now is it?

      • DefiantDeity

        Then why don’t you feel the same way about abortion? Abortion is not even a right listed in the Constitution, it was merely a ruling which can easily be overturned. However, you liberals will not allow any state to put any regulations on abortions but regulations on the 2nd is just fine with you.

        • Naos

          Well, from a liberal standpoint, life does not begin on conception, and therefore, it’s not killing anything. Guns on the other hand, were made to kill full-fledged human beings. And that’s a point that cannot be argued.

  • Jack Bailey

    Soon as I read “21-year-old Jakeel Rashon Mason”— I yelled *I knew it*.
    >Jakeel Rashon< that says it all.

    • Naos

      What does that have to do with anything?

  • steven

    How can you argue against not killing judges like this.

    • Naos

      Because killing judges over a ruling is asinine.

    • David Watts

      Now, don’t go all Johnny Depp on us.

  • Steve Jones

    Liberals love criminals and will help them out anyway they can,they want them to be safe and secure while carrying out their crimes and get realy upset when they get hurt or killed…..many of them think the victim deserved it anyway,had more money,drove a better car is white etc etc

    • The Jokester

      Yes it’s because they serve their Father.. the Father of Lies…Satan. They stand for death, cowardice,hypocrisy and chaos. They are a poison to good men who want peace and justice and honor.

      • Naos

        Praise be Satan, fuck God.

        • The Jokester

          I think you’ll be the one getting fucked in the end.

          • Naos

            Nah, not really. Because you know, God does not exist.

          • The Jokester

            Riiiiiiiiight. I’ll take some random nobody’s word for that. Dude you’re a clown. Someday you might figure it out. It’s so simple a child can understand it …yet someone like yourself has no clue. It’s pure arrogance and ignorance you are feeding.

          • Naos

            And i’m supposed to take your word God exists? Or really anyone’s word when they can’t prove it?

          • The Jokester

            Put it this way. I know you don’t know everything there is to know in this world. In fact I’m certain you don’t know HALF of everything there is to know….but let’s suppose you did know HALF of everything. That still leaves another HALF of things you have no clue about. And for you to flat out claim there’s absolutely no such thing as God based on that alone is ridiculous…so ridiculous in fact even a child can understand how silly it is. I can prove there is a GOD an “intelligent designer” just by using science, like the law of thermodynamics and the golden ratio and the five platonic solids making up the flower of life or even the double slit experiment. And if that were not enough I know I have felt and seen God’s work first hand in what spiritually blind call coincidence and others call synchronicity. When you open your eyes and are ready to see God you will, but if you remain closed off from the spiritual world you will see nothing.

  • John William Thompson

    blacks rob places and when people fight back the victim that fought back gets blamed. It is like when someone in the house is shot after breaking in, they are killed and their sister said “that’s how they get their money” cause they grew up in the hood.

  • ShikokuPrincess91

    This burns me up.

  • Claire Gomez

    Damn, I remember this has been happening in the Philippines before our president Duterte came into power. The people and cops are scared of criminals because of the same reason. Instead of the criminals going into jail, it is the person that fought back goes to jail for the reason that “deadly force was not warranted”. The lawyers are reading book so much to the point that they forgot to use common sense. If you are in that situation, the gun already pointed at you. When you get an opportunity to save yourself, you will take it. And unfortunately, sometimes you will end up killing the criminal…

  • Sergio Miranda

    It’s sad. Very disturbing, 8 years i believe is way too much.

    • Joshua Hudgins

      I believe any time is way too much. They should have gave him an commendation for shooting the criminal.

  • candice baron

    Unconstitutional you have the right to defend yourself and in some states your property too

    • Naos

      You can defend yourself. If the person was an immediate threat. And they were fleeing, so they were not.

  • chitowncircle

    He was just doing society a favor

  • Raina McFroggerstienstonski

    Why the fuck was he free after trying to haul off with a little girl? I think this man should have been able to get away with this had he known at the time this man was not just prone to taking cigarettes.

  • diana

    I think he deserved a medal when are we going to stop blaming the victim…the guy was a thug …

  • As far I’m concerned this guy did Washington a favor. What a disgrace and miscarriage of justice.

  • Rich Oth Hegy

    did no one watch the video… she missed him and shot the ceiling… he was arrested later by police… alive and uninjured!!! How the fuck is there a wrongful death charge when the victim… never got a scratch from the accused???

  • John

    Washington state, no surprise

  • Sanjosemike

    Seriously, Trump is in the position to pardon him. A grass root’s campaign should be instituted to get that done.

    Sanjosemike

  • Bob Todd

    I hate the justice system of this country so much, it caters to the low-lives and transients of this society, it’s as if the criminals and degenerates have more rights than the law-abiding citizens.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      you are blaming the justice system for the man pleading guilty. thats rich. He had his chance to defend his actions in court and chose to admit to the crime.

  • tessaprn

    If you are sane and call Washington state home you need to get the hell out of there. It’s just California spreading up the coast.

  • Jonathan Scott

    This guy should have never been found guilty , he was being robbed he has every right as an AMERICAN CITIZEN to protect his family and his property;

    • Renaissance_nerd

      he wasn’t found guilty, he pled guilty, big difference.

      • Jonathan Scott

        ah , big difference , thanks for clearing that up .

  • Fusion Skydweller

    KILL KILL KILL
    DON’T LET THUGS AND SCUM WALK ALL OVER YOU BECAUSE OF THE LAW.
    AIM FOR THE FUCKING HEAD SHOOT TO KILL AND YOU WILL BE THE ONE ALIVE IN THE END.

  • Jonathan Scott

    Lesson to be learned here is if you are thinking about starting a business in a liberal state think twice about it.

  • Large Basket

    he was in fear the thug would turn around and shoot his wife again. Set him free!

  • Vince Cipriano

    real bullcrap,,one of the Most Liberal States with Liberal Judges and Politicians, if he was a Muslim they would have given him a medal,, the Powers that be must stand up for this guy,,,

    • Renaissance_nerd

      not going to happen, he pled guilty, he had his chance to prove his innocence.

  • Steve Bonning

    I feel bad for the store owner and his family, unfortunately gun owners need to know their state laws. Some states do not allow deadly force to save property, only for personal defense. I know of no states that allow the use of deadly force on a fleeing person because someone who is running away is no longer a threat. That’s why it’s important to know the laws if you’re going to carry a gun.

    • Naos

      Exactly. Does it suck the person was charged with murder? Yes, but it was still murder nonetheless. If you want to do that, move to an area with a “stand your ground” law, where if you just feel threatened, you can shoot.

  • Randy Wachner

    That is what it is like to live in a lib world…..

  • Jeff of Tampa

    I would like to see if you put a cop in the SAME situation, would he get 8 years in JAIL.

  • aaronbbrown

    Previous incidents of crime committed by the victim are not germane in such a case. All that matters is the actions of the accused.

    Where is the video of the shooting in regard to this case? Why didn’t Milo post it?

    I’ll tell you why, because Milo is a manipulative piece of crap Who has no clue about the law in the US, Nor does he care. All he cares about is baiting the suckers Who buy his particular brand of BS.

    You can’t shoot somebody down who poses no threat to you in most US states, Texas and Florida being some of the exceptions, and even there you’re going to have a problem with this kind of shooting.

    If you’re going to shoot somebody, make sure you understand the law, or you will be the one going to prison. Ignorance of the law is never a defense.

  • ddivencenzo

    This is what happens when good people try to take the high road, you lose. Bad people(liberals) do not have an ethics hand book, their entire ideology is of theft and tyranny. We facing a very strong likely hood of conflict in our country. Liberal beliefs in tyranny and theft do not work or can’t be moderated with the libertarian (what country was founded on) views. With school systems further indoctrinating students, they will have the voting majority and they will not stop until complete tyrannical control. When judges started legislating from the bench, our document, that protected all of us, was made as useless as toilet paper. There is only one way to protect ourself and you see them trying to take that away.

  • findthetruth808

    Sounds like his attorney sucked to plea to 2nd degree murder when its self defense.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      no it’s not, the legal definition of self defense is using only enough force to stop the imminent threat. Shooting a man in the back is murder. Since the thief shot his wife in the past he could hang for 1st degree premeditated murder. (the prosecution arguing that he thought about killing the man for a long time)

      no doubt 2nd degree murder was a plea deal because he knew he was fucked.

  • TheResearcher

    Pothead liberal state…

  • Rosemary Martin

    Wrong is made right and right wrong, bible prophecy. He shot a man who had tried to kidnap a child, in the past, and he probably had flashbacks of his wife being shot at another robbery. He does not deserve jail, the dead man had no business stealing, do judges forget that? Seems so. The judge was very wrong. We have every right to defend our families, and our property. This state better wake up and start electing conservatives instead of liberal democrats or what ever this judge is.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      Shooting a man in the back is murder. Since the thief shot his wife in the past he could hang for 1st degree premeditated murder. (the prosecution arguing that he thought about killing the man for a long time)

      no doubt 2nd degree murder was a plea deal because he knew he was fucked.

    • Naos

      Bible prophecy. Please. That fairy tale did not happen.

  • Ken M

    Try for a reduced sentance, early release or parole.

  • Roger Edward Harris

    Liberal prosecutors and judges. Protecting the criminals and punishing the working people.

    • Renaissance_nerd

      you are blaming the justice system for the man pleading guilty. thats rich. He had his chance to defend his actions in court and chose to admit to the crime.

  • Keith Varela

    once i read that it was in the great state of fag washington…that said it all

    • Naos

      Fag? So nice to use a gay slur, you fucking redneck.

  • LM

    The bitter fruit of liberalism. More crime and destroyed lives.

  • Roque B. Bamba Sr.

    That punk needs to be dealt with seriously, It gives Black people a bad Rap, I hate all Punks, Blacks Whites,, Yellows, and Brown, Bad is Bad, Color of the skin makes no difference.

  • RedMeatState

    he did us all a favor and the judge should be going to prison.

  • Robb Smythe

    This story is click bait the video shown was a robbery that happened days or a couple of weeks prior to the killing what happened was another person days later tried to shoplift but the clerk had had enough shit from this ghetto neighborhood he over reacted to the shoplifter, shot and killed him. Product of a violent neighborhood and a legitimate fear of his own safety due to prior experience he needed a better atty and the da is a pos for pressing the case

  • Archie Bunker

    Kim jakeeled him real good. Should have been given a medal

  • Grim Citizen

    This is utter bullsh*t!! Let those thugs pay a visit to that judge’s house and rob him!!

  • We have no 2nd amendment. Only cops are allowed to fear for their life and if you use a gun, even believing it was the right choice, the thugs in blue will haul you away as a slave to a profit generating prison.

    We should always avoid violence, but this is twisted. No trial, no due process, just illegal bully tactics to get Kim to plead. Our judges, prosecutors and and police are the greatest terrorists our nation has ever seen and that won’t change until we stop seeing them as hero’s and start exposing them as the syndicate thugs they have become.

  • Gene Zinser

    Washington….The snowflake state

  • james

    Considering all aspects you still can’t just shoot someone in the back.. Still 8 years is a bit much also..

  • greatgrandmasue

    If robbers knew they could die and no one would care, it would go a long way to stop these thugs from their criminal ways. Shame on WASHINGTON STATE WHERE CROOKS HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS.

  • OctoInk20

    Psh. Typical piece of scumfuck globalist rapist-loving rapist pedo-Satanist anti-gay sandnigger-loving Islamic cultist fucking anti-woman fucksticks.

    Execute every last one of them, along with their Allah-loving, rapist-supporting, child-raping Nazi-Communists.

    • Naos

      How many demeaning labels can you put into one comment? Fucking hell.

      • Joe Blow

        LMFAO, an Olympic Bigot Slur contest

  • Frank Rivera

    Maybe now asians will wake up and see that liberal democrats are not their friends.

  • Johnny Pastrana

    This is not justice…anyone who has worked at a convenience store knows how vulnerable a person is in this situation. Anyone who thinks a thief waving a gun should have his rights protected is moronic.

  • chaloner

    Contact that idiot judge here.
    (253) 752-0457
    jrhickm@gmail.com

  • Dave

    Better to be judged by 12….Than carried by 6. Should have gone to a jury. Damn that sucks.

  • flashprism

    He has nothing to be sorry for. Killing the SOB is an act of decency for the rest of society. The judge should have his ass kicked for sentencing him beyond probation!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bill Pearlman

    The guy should get a commendation, not jail

  • SeRiOuSLy!!??

    when you’ve been made a victim over and over you reach a breaking point. i certainly don’t blame him but the endless line of criminals that push people to that point.

  • M&M

    I believe that black see minority owned business as easy target

  • Edward Lewis

    The judge should be tarred and feathered. NO ONE has the right to steal from an honest man by using the threat of death (read “using a gun themselves). The man should have never been put in that position, bur he was, and should not be sentenced to any time in jail for trying to protect his family, his ob, and future. I say tar and feather the judge.

  • Lizzy Mack

    The thug, Tyrone Prophet Jr, who shot Kim’s wife weeks earlier, received the low end of a sentence-five years-so he’ll be out on the streets before Min Kim. And the thug who died during this second attempted robbery was out on the streets despite a 2014 attempted abduction of a 6 year old girl and another attempted robbery. Perhaps if he were kept in jail he wouldn’t be out committing crimes and getting himself dead. Whoever was responsible for releasing him despite his recent, serious crimes also has responsibility here and should share a cell with this store owner–Jakeel Mason needed to be in jail, it was only a matter of time before he committed another crime.

  • bill engstrom

    trial by jury, please.

  • JimmyH

    Notice the blatant “confession”. The language of it reeks a forced confession, Something I’ve noticed in our courts lately. Even in traffic court the judges will demand complete acknowledgement of the court’s right to impose any sentence he pleases, before issuing the sentence, and as in this case, the sentence is maxxed anyway. If the thug had killed Kim he would have gotten less time.

  • Amy MK

    Fucking Liberal state…He would never have seen the inside of a jail cell in Idaho. People have the right to defend themselves, their family and their property. Just not in Washington I guess.

  • Nasty Kat????

    As soon as he gets out they need to get the hell out of that God forsaken state. I’m hoping they keep fighting this and the sentence is overturned. Stinking liberal judges!

  • DaisyToo

    What color is the judge?

  • Jesus Christ

    Nothing sadder than when Asians cry. They go all out.

  • Trevor Evenson

    If he plead guilty, go to jail dumb fuck. Too bad that Chinese lady shot at his head and not his body, now he will get the same sentence as the Chinese guy.

  • Uncle Ronnie

    Criminals are always treated better than everyone else on the Left Coast.

  • Denny Allen

    if he had USCCA INSURANCE he would’ve had a better chance

  • sherstone212

    So incredibly painful to watch his family suffer like that. The black thug CAUSED his OWN death. If he hadn’t robbed this guy he wouldn’t be a dead thug. Cause and effect. This makes me SICK.

  • SS

    Are people even paying attention? A woman shot him, not that man.

  • don’t ever plead guilty, the state will rape you over the coals.

  • Monty Simmons

    I am glad the thug is dead – wish I had been on the jury.

  • Gregory Alan of Johnson

    Honesty does not work in Satan’s system, which is what this system is under. The Kim’s were not comprehending how things work on this land. Satan’s Vatican system took advantage of them.

  • Sorry folks, but if you don’t understand when you can and can’t use deadly force, then you have no business having a firearm. Seriously, take a MAG 40 Class with Massad Ayoob. If you have a Washington CPL, please, please, please take some training by someone who understand the use of deadly force and has been hired specifically as an expert witness on the use of force. Massad, is a gentleman who has written countless articles and has been in hundreds of trails teaching the jury of the proper use of deadly force to defend both civilians and Police Officers. I took his class and even lawyers were in my class. They said he knew the information on this subject much better than most lawyers. I don’t get paid for telling you this. I’m just a happy graduate from taking his training. And without a doubt, I would have found him guilty just from the fact that the robber never presented a weapon and was never a threat. i would have been one of the jurors in that room that would have walked in, sat down, said can we vote right away and would have found him guilty in about 5 seconds. And, I’m totally pro gun….2A OoooooRah.. I call it as I see it……Guilty. That’s why you should have insurance. He shot a knucklehead over cigarettes….and was found guilty. And you think the eight years in jail is bad. Wait, you haven’t seen the Civil Lawsuit that will be filed by the family. This family will shortly be out of business and financially ruined because they didn’t know the law. Also, if you carry make sure you get Insurance for Liability and Lawyer fees. The best out there is a yearly platinum membership with USCCA. You want to carry a gun…..I think that’s great. I’m all for it. So, long as you are properly trained and have insurance.

    • Joe Blow

      Unfortunately you are quite correct, Shooting an unarmed perp in the back is a sure fire way to lose it all

      • I was amazed at how easy it was to get a CPL in Washington. Seriously, it took me longer to find parking than to apply for my permit. There was no training certificate or qualification. Nothing….. My Nevada permit, requires and all day training class and at least shoot into paper. My Florida and Utah, was something like 4 hours of classroom. Washington was simply apply, pay and fingerprint. I was actually speechless, when they said I was done. I was looking at a Sheriff with a look of puzzlement because I was expecting to at least be asked a few questions. He was like what? I asked him, aren’t you going to ask me question regarding background? He simple said, I saw your license, you’re from California and applied for a Non Resident permit………WELCOME TO A FREE STATE. with that I laughed. and shortly, I will be a resident of WA. and the CA attitude is left far behind…….I’m more Libertarian (not liberal) than Republican.

        • Naos

          Let’s compare that to Japan’s law. Handguns are forbidden absolutely. Small-caliber rifles have been illegal to buy, sell, or transfer since 1971. Anyone who owned a rifle before then is allowed to keep it, but their heirs are required to turn it over to the police once the owner dies. The only guns that Japanese citizens can legally buy and use are shotguns and air rifles, and it’s not easy to do. To get a gun in Japan, first, you have to attend an all-day class and pass a written test, which are held only once per month. You also must take and pass a shooting range class. Then, head over to a hospital for a mental test and drug test (Japan is unusual in that potential gun owners must affirmatively prove their mental fitness), which you’ll file with the police. Finally, pass a rigorous background check for any criminal record or association with criminal or extremist groups, and you will be the proud new owner of your shotgun or air rifle. Just don’t forget to provide police with documentation on the specific location of the gun in your home, as well as the ammo, both of which must be locked and stored separately. And remember to have the police inspect the gun once per year and to re-take the class and exam every three years.

          Also, comparing America’s basic gun law to Japan’s:

          2nd Amendment: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

          Firearm and Sword Possession Control Law: “No person shall possess a firearm or firearms or a sword or swords.”

          So basically, America was like, own all the fucking guns you want! While Japan did the exact opposite. Of course, from what I said above, they added exceptions, but it’s so tedious that people don’t even bother often to own a firearm. The easiest way in Japan is to join the police force or military. And the police don’t use firearms often either.

          Just interesting to see how different two nations can be on this.

    • Tommy Hoffmann

      Agreed. The RoE in WA are quite clear. This was not a good kill. Not even close.

  • I_h8_disqus

    The biggest mistake this store owner and so many other Koreans make is locating their lives near black communities. Koreans have had decades to learn better.

  • Alarmist!!!

    Brother, I would never have convicted you. If the f*ckers had never entered your store, your life, they would be alive.

  • Phil Jermakian

    Psy op hoax of the fake phoney show variety of psychological operations hoaxes.

  • Doc

    This is what you get when you elect left wing liberals to office. Good guys go to jail while thugs run the streets! This judge and prosecutor should both be put in jail! The family should sue them both for denying their civil rights not to mention their Constitutional Rights while molly coddling the criminals!

  • scott w.

    Just make sure you shoot ’em in the face next time…

  • RIconservative

    Liberal paradise.

  • Topp Catt

    this story is confused. the video is about a woman shooting at a robber.

  • kamenetz

    Washington state is about the same as the People’s socialist Marxist Republic of CA

    • Phil Jermakian

      A little worse. This was a psy op I am fairly sure watch grandma in the 2nd video kicking her legs in the air, news is fully corrupt, this family now in its 2nd TV news story well… 1000 convenience stores are robbed a day I am sure, for them to make the news 2x with it screams corrupt insiders.

  • angel1959

    Discrimination, no doubt. He was just a gentle giant on his way to college. he had his hands up and she shot at him. Hands Up, Don’t Shoot. Isn’t that they way the story goes?

    • Naos

      Actually, this was a story of a man, not a woman, if I remember correctly. This was about the husband of the woman who was shot and killed.

  • Tyler

    Ridiculous. The judge is an idiot. I don’t care of the robber was leaving. The robber just committed a crime and deserved to be shot. And regardless, eight years is obnoxious. The judge must have a thing against asians.

    • Naos

      Oh, yeah, cause it’s always a race issue. Piss off with that notion. Eight years is justified, considering murder can get you 25 years. Are you saying every crime committed is worth the death penalty? Then you’re a fucking idiot.

  • John Sanchez

    welp, if this isn’t the beginning of the end of the world then what the FUCK is!? I am beyond pissed!!!

  • Tommy Hoffmann

    This is the wrong video.

    The woman shot at a thug who didn’t die.

    Totally different story.

  • Brett Ray

    But if you are a cop you can kill someone for making you nervous or running away for you and that’s perfectly fine. Does no one else see a problem with this?

  • Eric Gonnason

    Washington = California Mojado. Mr. Kim’s mistake was in not being O.J. Simpson.

  • SafetyDave

    He had a BAD lawyer, likely “on the take”. Someone start a go fund me. Help this guy!

  • Caniac Steve Henderson

    I’d appeal & get a different legal team

  • gigirojas

    Glad I don’t live anywhere near Washington state; it’s an insane place for victims of crime.

  • Annuelle

    Which part of UNARMED did you guys (yes, you, commenters) miss from the story? Not only was he unarmed, he was not even inside the store when the owner came out to confront him. Before you start blaming everything from West Coast “libtartd” laws to immigrants, actually read the article.

    • Naos

      This article is also misleading in talking about the wife. All they said was “prior”, implying it could have been right before the incident, when it happened in February.

      • Annuelle

        Yes, that too!

  • Eugene Maning

    It’s either you or the thug dies. Who should take the shot first? Even if the thug was able to flee, he’s sure to comeback.

  • wtf is it? US is insane? He should have shot the robber 10 times more to make sure he is dead and get medal..

    • lucke1949@yahoo.com

      If they had sent Mason to prison for a greater charge than unlawful imprisonment of the 6 year old he tried to grab he might be alive today. 90 days is all he got for trying to grab her. Should have been attempted kidnapping

  • Every man has not only the right, but both duty and obligation, to stop any from harming them by whatever means necessary. Those that would dare attempt to restrict or condemn a man of doing such a thing have themselves forfeited their own life.

    • Naos

      Not when the person was running away… how were they going to harm him at that point?

      • Running away does not make one less responsible or less likely for an attempt at endangering another’s life.

        • Naos

          Yes, it does. If I’m running away from you with no weapons, how the fuck am I supposed to hurt you? He did not have the right. He had him pinned down, punched him in the face. And when he ran away, he shot him. What the fuck was the robber supposed to do? I guess death is the punishment for theft now.

          • Running away or turning one’s back does not mean a robber won’t return with even bigger guns or more men, or from hitting elsewhere. Any wise man is going to take the shot, because it’s about preventing him from doing any further potential of harm whether to himself or others he may or may not know.

            Moreover, death is a much more merciful punishment than you’re led to believe. The robber would be lucky to die, compared to what his punishment ought be.

          • Naos

            That doesn’t mean death is an appropriate punishment for theft. When they’re gone, you call the police. By your logic, anyone who you feel is a threat should be shot. Which is stupid. Okay, when a teenage girl shoplifts, and she runs, you should just shoot her up right the fuck there. Cause I mean, she could possibly be a threat.

          • You’re welcome to your straw-mans, but they don’t make you right. From the beginning, I was speaking specifically of harm and this article speaks of a thief who meant to harm a cashier. Now, if you’re stupid enough to believe a teenage girl will necessarily pose harm, that’s your own low-IQ at work.

          • Naos

            No it doesn’t speak of any harm intended toward the cashier. He attempted to steal cigarettes. Not harm anyone. And a teenage girl can pose harm. I assume height’s a matter in this. Why would you be more scared of say, a man who’s 5’5”, rather than a teenage girl who’s 5’10”?

            The only thief that attempted to harm anyone was the thief who killed his wife in February, and that was not the deceased in question. Therefore, there was zero justification for this homicide.

          • You’re right, and for that I apologize.

          • John Zohn

            Do you think accusing someone of a fallacy when that person didn’t make any fallacious statements makes you correct? Could you clarify exactly what statement that Naos made that you’re accusing him of making a “straw-mans” please? You sound like a poster boy for the Dunning Kuger Effect.

          • John Zohn

            Bullshit, there is no threat to your life when someone is running away from you. You don’t get to make up your own version of reality. Do you believe in the constitution? Did you know there is this part of it called the 5th Amendment that has to this thing called “Due Process” it says no one shall be “deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law.” But I bet you’re one of those constitutional scholars that think that the 2nd Amendment was was the whole constitution?

          • Nope, the constitution is nothing more than a mere piece of paper that one group of men signed, believing themselves capable of better government than others. I will happily piss on the constitution and your so-called claim of ‘due process’ that is non-existent in the first place.

            The only one making up their own version of reality, is yourself. Someone turning their back to run away does not in itself imply anything, and it’s even a renown tactical maneuver all throughout history.

            Of course, I’m speaking as someone that knows several who have done it themselves. Ask them, they’d do it all over again because people like you are so easy to take advantage of.

          • John Zohn

            “constitution is nothing more than a mere piece of paper”, that’s ripe coming from the Dunning Kruger poster boy. I take it you just make shitup as you go along? What exactly does
            “due process that is non-existent in the first place” supposed to mean?
            Due process means you can’t execute someone for stealing a pack of cigarettes when they’re running out the door.

            You told me to ask the people you saw do it for yourself? Because it’s a “renown tactical maneuver all throughout history.” That’s a pretty ignorant statement and holds the title for the dumbest thing I’ve heard all day.

            So I take it you’re saying that when someone steals something and fleas the scene, that they’re just going out to their car to get the gun, that they just happened to forget to bring in in the first place, so they could have a shootout with the clerk? Is that the renown maneuver you’re speaking of?

            You’re logic is a perfect example of someone who suffers from the Dunning Kruger effect. Then on top of it you accuse someone else of using “straw-mans”, when obviously you don’t have a clue what they are. You think that you’re some genius philosopher when you’re actually a clueless puppet whose opinion is easily manipulated by propaganda.

          • Yet here you are, a believer in the fairy tale of law.

          • John Zohn

            Fairy tale called law? Your dunce hat is showing! Do you know of a real country outside of your delusional fantasy land that doesn’t have laws? You seem to be getting deeper and deeper into your inability to grasp reality by every post. Can you tell me about a country in world that doesn’t have laws and doesn’t have a government? There isn’t one. Are you of that special kind of stupid that thinks we would just all get along and corruption, greed, organized crime just disappears because their is no big bad government and laws any more? Are you so clueless that you believe that the wealthy people that control the government would ever change the only thing that protects their power and wealth? Can’t wait for your next dumbass answer!

  • Stüntkök

    Always aim for the balls and dick.

  • Tamara Alban

    That is Washington for you. The Criminals have more rights. Shame on that Jury and Judge.

  • John Zman

    Wait a minute they said that his Wife was shot in the Stomach by another Robber could they have been together on this Robbery it all seems so outrageous 1 man enters the Store while the Husband is outside asking Loiterers to Leave as he returns inside another guy shoots his wife in the stomach while the other guy flees with Cigarettes gets shot in the Back fleeing did both of these men act out and plan this robbery together then this story goes on about Mason trying to abduct a 6 Year old Girl this man Mason was bound for Hell this man might have save another child from being abducted, Kim should be let go and placed on Probation the District Attorney should reopen this case and find him standing his ground after his wife was shot how did Mr Kim know who shot his wife while returning something is not right here, that’s it hard working People should not suffer the Consequences at the Hands of others we should Judge Mr Kim for His Bravery and Possibly saving the Life of another child from Being abducted ! Thank you Mr Kim the preponderance of evidence was substituted for a Guilty Verdict, what happened to the Guy that shot his wife and did she Live I said that they both acted together it just seems so coincidental that one guy would rob the store and shoot Mr Kims Wife while the other gathered Smokes ! Free Mr Kim he deserves a New Trail and another chance !

    • Naos

      The wife was shot back in February.

  • Diogenesof Sinope

    The store owner should have yelled, “Hey, here’s my wallet!” Then when the filthy POS turned around—Bang! Justifiable shooting.

  • suqsid4

    From the state that supports bestiality.

  • FlameonMe

    Who was his attorney? Send HIM TO PRISON.

  • PJMcK1954

    Not only do I presume that Jakeel Rashon Mason is black, but convinced that if he was white, that Min Sik Kim wouldn’t be facing eight years in prison.
    What kind of parent would give her (presuming that she is a single mother and an urban ghetto rat) child a name like Jakeel Rashon Mason??? I wouldn’t give that name to a pet mouse.

  • Bimmer Bacardi

    Because there was a scuffle, the store owner had sufficient reason to believe the robber was running to get a gun, especially after his wife was shot at not long ago. He had sufficient reason to believe that his life was in imminent danger. It’s self-defense.

    • Naos

      No, the store owner got him down and punched him, as the robber ran way, he shot him. No danger there.

      • Bimmer Bacardi

        Wrong. It was entirely possible that the robber was running to get his gun and come back to revenge the fight.

        • Naos

          So you get to shoot people based on unsure things now? So if you see anyone as a possible threat, you can shoot them now? Really, fuck that logic. “Oh, that person looks threatening!” Bang!

          • Bimmer Bacardi

            Don’t try to justify your logic by distorting and exaggerating others. His wife was shot in the stomach in the same store in a robbery not long ago. He was being robbed and there was a fight, and the threat was real, not imaginary.

          • Naos

            The threat was on the robber, not the store owner. It was a one-sided fight. Pretty much an execution. Not long ago? February’s a pretty long time ago.

  • Neice Susan

    THY SHOULD PUT THE JUDGE IN JAIL

  • tewdc

    As any trained gun owner knows, you cannot shoot unless you are in imminent danger, i.e., a gun is being pointed at you or someone else or a knife being held in a threatening manner. You cannot shoot someone running away, that is the law. Even the cops aren’t supposed to shoot someone running away.

  • newmik

    Oh that is harsh…after all his family had been through previously. I hope there is an appeal to this sentence. Awful!! Never justice for the victims!!!

  • mimabo72

    Let’s face it liberals hate minorities they just use them at election time to get votes by pretending they are on their side. Look at Bill Mahre and his racist comment.

  • dodger4754

    One cannot legally shoot a cigarette thief, especially in the back, as he runs away. The theft of smokes is not a threat to your life and if the thief is running away, he isn’t a threat to you either. Those of you who think the store owner was right to kill the thief should definitely read up on the law before carrying a firearm.

    • John Zohn

      Absolutely, but think about the people that believe you should be able to execute someone for stealing a pack of cigarettes. They are the same ones who bitch and moan about the 2nd amendment being violated if you pass laws to prevent the mentally ill, felons and terrorists from being able to purchase guns. They pretend they are constitutional scholars until real violations to the constitution occur, like shooting someone in the back. They don’t seem to remember that there was more than just the 2nd amendment in the constitution. Like Due process in the 5th amendment, that means you can’t just execute people that aren’t a threat to your life.

  • Doo-kett Soto

    Typical Washington state judge, criminal and illegals immigrants has more rights than it’s own citizens

  • Edgar Artates

    Nowadays law breakers have more rights and protection than upright citizens. They call it human rights.

  • abbygal64

    I find this disturbing, that Mason guy was in trouble before trying to kidnap a 6 yr old. I can understand his problem since his wife was shot just not long before this incident. Why he plead guilty? Because he is a caring man and his lawyer told him it was the best I’m sure. The lawyers shamed him for killing a robber, after all the BLM believe “how else are they going to get products”? The justice system is feeling the heat of BLM ideology.

  • UStodd

    Where is the footage of him shooting the low life?

  • Jim W Gash

    The worlds gone mad.

  • domahman

    did the robber die? if so..cheers!!

  • Loy Ho

    I don’t understand how this judgement concluded, but I hope the civil society can power up for the judgement appeal of the case. It will lay a case reference to open door for all coming robbing crime.

  • Joseph Nizzari Sr.

    I’m going to play Devil’s Advocate here. Shooting an unarmed person in the back and killing them while they are running away from you for shoplifting is NOT a Deadly Force situation. And that even applies to Stand-Your-Ground states. I don’t think that a 2nd Degree Murder charge was warranted, but IMO that killing wasn’t justified. Flame suit on.

  • Freddie theDog

    Every business should flee areas infested with this crap. Let the filth consume themselves.

  • Eddie Kao

    what a country

  • Alan Dunaway

    I thought this kind of insanity where victims are punished for defending themselves only happened in Europe. I thought America was better than this.

  • Dennis Haffner

    California and most of the Western Coast areas are gone. Americans don’t want anything to do with those people. The reason is self explanatory.

  • 8675309

    Let’s see, the world is less one less pedophile/attempted child kidnapper/rapist/thief and murderer? Thank you Mr. Min Kim for your service and God Bless You. This nation owes you a debt of gratitude. Unfortunately, no good deed goes unpunished. However, every true American believes you will be soon be vindicated on appeal, though, cuz there’s obviously something wrong in the state of Denmark…

  • Axaya Hartly

    The Judge if he has any decency aught to put his robes in a dumpster and set it all ablaze. But if he didn’t have the common sense to figure this one out then I don’t know. The Jury had to all have been sampled as Democrats and finally her defense attorney needs to find a new day job.

  • Caren

    Chinese people think they have some kind of closeness to black people. I have 3 Chinese neighbors who only rent to black thugs. One guy was a drug dealer, another black family they rented to are trouble makers, another black family stiffed my Chinese neighbor for 8 months rent. This is in a very good area. They open stores in ghetto areas with this connection they feel to thugs and this is the result. When will they learn?

    • Robert Barron

      No they don’t. Asians immigrants for the most part don’t like black Americans. Usually those Asian families opened businesses in good communities that were later ruined by blacks, leaving Asians like in this story to deal with them on a daily basis.

  • Fandrie Koh

    Where are the defence attorney and American jury?

  • Robert Barron

    The thug he shot and killed was convicted of kidnapping a six year old girl. And this dumbass feels sorry for killing him, pleads guilty to accept the consequences for his actions, although the thug was fighting with him in his store. O-o-o-o-ok.

  • Give peace a chance

    Blacks are not worthy of Earth – the entire equator is almost all shitbags. If whites and Asians didn’t exist it would be a cannibal hell earth like south Africa. Niggers need to realize they are mentally handicapped and are lucky we’ve all been this patient with them.

  • Daniel Kim

    he plead guilty bc deep inside of his hart he know his wrong and I respect that.
    he could take chance and take jury trail and go on for years and make head line news just like real killer oj did . but I guess he don’t want or need any drama in his life.

  • happytortuga

    If he attempted to kidnap a young girl, why wasn’t he in jail? It’s terrible that a good person is going to jail over this.

  • Pamela Anne

    8 years? If he was shot in the back w/o announcing, “Stop or I’ll I shoot” or some other warning, that has to be considered. But he could have gotten a much lessor sentence – even community work, given that he’s been robbed before, his wife was shot before – what kind of justice is this?

  • B Sto

    He really shouldn’t have shot the guy. He wasn’t armed, he was stealing and was running away. Notwithstanding, I still the think the charges were excessive; I don’t think the guy is a murderer.

  • rebaaron

    One man came on to another man’s property, robbed him and then (tried to, or did) beat him up. The other man shot him. Which one is the criminal?
    Excessive force is a good theory in the lab, but if your being robbed and attacked, it is a ridiculous concept.

  • Ian Garcia

    How much brain damage is required to see the vid and think “yeah, he’s trying to run away”? He was looking around the corner, not fleeing you fucking retard. The judge should turn in his powdered wig and gavel.

  • Chris Lamparello

    A plea deal to involuntary manslaughter…YES, but not to 2nd degree murder! Who was this man’s lawyer?

  • John Zohn

    Exactly what you should expect from a bullshit right wing propaganda news source. They have an article that talks about a store clerk going to jail for shooting a thief in the back, then they show a video of someone shooting a a robber in actual self defense that was a completely different and unrelated incident, to get the uninformed to believe that the clerk that received the jail time was the one defending herself. I guess bait and switch articles like that work real well to manipulate people’s emotions particularly when the demographic your appealing to is semi illiterate and doesn’t read.

  • JC

    Meanwhile, the woman who stabbed me in the neck in Las Vegas for no reason gets probation. There is no justice in the justice system.

  • M Derson

    Did they do the, he was no danger to you because he was running away, bs line? I wonder if the judge would think this if he found a robber in his own home, going out the door?

  • This is the result of liberal assholes like obama the criminal being in charge for 8 years! Democrats protect criminals or they would have no voters, I think we should start shooting judges that give jail time fir shioting thieves . If you try and steal from me I will kill you, it is a death sentance . And if a judge sends me to prison he is on the side of the criminals and deserves the same sentence!

  • Andy

    How did we go from a store protecting business owner to killing animals? I live in South Dakota and i grew up in southern California. Perhaps the best and worst of both if you’ll allow the term. I have probably more guns in my house than 5 city blocks per capita than anyone in Compton! Legally, registered and not one of them has hurt a human being…yet! Liberal morons…you want em, come and get em! Good luck with that. The problem with liberals is that they are “for” just about anything and everything until it directly affects them and or their livelihood. You’ll see what I mean very soon.

  • Andy

    Same liberal idiots that tell us to open our borders to any and all foreigners…untill their house gets robbed by an illegal immigrant and a radical Muslim kills a loved one of theres for being at a shopping mall enjoying their day innocently. Then they’ll change their mind. After its to late…

  • Andy

    “Justice” defined will soon change its very own definition. Regardless of your views. It will be defined as, “kill or be killed”.

  • James Tucker

    I so hope that Judge gets killed during a car jacking.

  • Louis K. Akana

    Now you can’t even protect yourself or your property in these far Left states. WTF!!! The Federal Government needs to step in and investigate this one. Do in now and make the state pay for the misuse of power. $$$$$$$$$ This will make them wake up !

  • BrianJ

    If someone shoots my wife, I don’t care what part of him I see – front, back, head, foot – I’m firing back and aiming to kill.

  • Timothy Loew

    Sad…. what has happened to American justice? The good are now considered bad, and the THUG TURDS are treated as the victim…..

  • jholland51

    liberals protecting black criminals.

  • Devlin

    That would not have happened in Texas.

  • janice sexton

    Cigarettes are not worth a persons life….Now if he was in fear of his life or to save someone elses life then that is different. Know the laws if you have a gun….

  • JC Ballenger

    What defense lawyer convinced him to plead guilty? The family should sue for legal malpractice, and this trial be appealed.

  • Charles Ridley

    White Men and Cops can claim that they feared for their lives and get away with murder, I guess that’s what he should have done. But this was a thief who had stole from him and assaulted him as well, plus his wife had been shot in a previous incident before, I see all grounds for him defending himself and his property with lethal force.

  • Obama’saracist

    that entire State is nothing but a liberal sh*& hole.

  • Derrick Beauregard

    I have noticed that most of the States that employ criminals….are the ones that vote Democrat…why is that?

  • NA8STRADAMUS

    The police do this all the time and walk. I don’t understand why they aren’t held to at least the same standard as the public, even though they should be held to a higher standard because of their training. Yeah this dude messed up by shooting the victim in the back, and he owned up to it like a real man. It would just be nice if there wasn’t a double standard.

  • Pietro

    This so unfair, so unfair!

  • Jim Brockett

    His lawyer should have never let him plead guilty.

  • Luiz Eduardo Ardovino

    fuck the state

  • Kaozong Kiki Lo

    I hate how the justice system works.

  • Frank E Richardson

    Someone please start a gofundme account for an attorney for his appeal. Someone please start a petition for clemency for this injustice. #freekim

  • Frank E Richardson

    He was probably coerced to plea

  • Doc Dooling

    Hopefully, this shop owner will be released within a couple of years and I thank him for ridding the world of that scumbag!

  • mharper42

    Why live in a sappy blue state? In most of the USA, this shopkeeper would get a parade.

  • Daybo.

    How would an accomplice to the theft be charged…

  • JD

    A Milo Yinnopoulous article = white supremacist = ZERO credibility. ‘Nuf said.

  • Jim720

    Good is now called evil and evil is called good.

  • Sher Hall

    Sounds like he had an “assigned by the court”, attorney. This is a pathetic way to plea when he was protecting himself and others!!!!!! RETRIAL!!!!!!!

  • ridgerunner

    Verdicts like this can change voting patterns. This guy may have just just red-pilled the state of Washington.

  • Ren

    That man needs a better Lawyer. He should have never plead guilty to lessor charges, that Criminal showed up ARMED and was ready to Kill the Store owner. #GetANewLawyer

    • Naos

      He was not armed.

      “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

      The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

      Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

      http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

  • margolioth770

    It seems that the attorney advised Kim to take a plea-bargain. These are very dangerous for the client. The attorney may have any kind of concealed agenda other than serving the needs of the client. This is a victory where everyone wins except Kim. If making a guilty-plea I wouldn`t have exceeded “negligent homicide” with heaps of extenuating circumstances. Kim was defending his property and merchandise. Thats a basic right.

    • Naos

      He wasn’t, actually.

      “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

      The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

      Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

      http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

      • margolioth770

        Thats why 10 witnesses can see the same scene 10 different ways.

  • Athelstane

    It is small wonder that our Nation is going the way of Rome and all the rest. When the powers that be turn us all into sheep and release the wolves upon us, this is the result. In a sane society, thugs like these would be hanging from the nearest oak tree that very afternoon.

  • Mathew Espinoza

    Jakeel Rashon…… a good Irish name???
    Trash needs to be taken out

  • Sloth Addams

    Back-shooting coward sh!the@d. Make a good nazi scumbag, but OHHH!!!! Not White Enough!!

  • Sloth Addams

    Yeah, I’m sure you Honkies are ALL FOR THE NICE ASIAN… Until he tries to move into YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. Riiiiiight…

  • Kellee Ray Sunshine

    If you commit a heinous crime then you get what’s coming , whether it’s in your back or not … had he not Robbed the store this would t even be an issue …. WRONG WRONG WRONG ON SOOOOO MANY LEVELS

  • Matt Thimgan

    Shooting in the back is possibly problematic but not necessarily undefensable. If the robber/ shooter was on his way out the door or running away from the scene, that could be very difficult to prove further fear of harm or death.

  • Kris

    WTF, why plead guilty?? He should be free right now, his wife was shot for fuck sake.

    • Naos

      His wife was shot back in February.

  • yeah ok

    Only in America can you protect your store, yourself and get thrown in jail, kill a baby in the womb, get a sex change op and then become Woman of the Year, try and save cows and chickens from being eaten while worrying about child hunger.

    • Naos

      “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

      The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

      Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

      http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

      It was not a justified killing.

  • Bbstackr

    Sorry, there is a difference in shooting an armed robber (violent crime with credible chance of injury or death) and shooting a shoplifter, especially one attempting to flee. Man 2, slam dunk, no pity here for an 8 year sentence.

  • Ed ‘ got ‘ Wood Jr.

    All things considered ?…. Liberals ! ” tsk , tsk . ” ….and Western Washington ? I knew something was amiss when I went back up to Seattle , for a couple of years in 2010 and saw the likeness of Rev. Dr. MLK , Jr. on the right rear panel of ” King County ” Sheriff Dept vehicles . ” Whu ! ? ” Wrong ! ! Wrong King !…and the communists always bitched about ‘ revisionists and revisionism !’..Ironic .

  • Raymond Foster

    It’s insane that the CRIMINAL gets away with whatever and the honest hard working shop owner gets prison for protecting his business and livelyhood .if I was on a jury I would vote not guilty ..

  • jeffery dolph

    people quoting the bible its quite a contradictory thin isn’t it its like having an all knowing god and free will at the same time hahahaha

  • Conley Raye

    prime example for all justice there is, injustice.

  • Zachary Stone

    Pleading guilty to second-degree murder should come with a mandatory minimum, but the judge was as merciful as could be allowed. That being said, if somebody shoots a family member, I’m shooting *Somebody. Period. Your thinking isn’t going to be as straight during that.

    • Naos

      You do know, the person who was killed did not kill his wife? The killing of his wife happened back in February. The robber was not even armed.

      • Zachary Stone

        I was not aware of that during my first read-through. Alright… Shooting someone in the back after a brief fistfight over a pack of cigarettes is overboard. He was right to plead guilty.

        • Naos

          Yeah. This article was intentionally misleading.

  • Glenn Peoples

    “Ultimately, according to Q13 Fox, Kim can be seen shooting Mason in the back as he flees.”
    Then he’s absolutely guilty. Killing someone as they flee is not justifiable.

  • ClassicLogic

    Were do we gather to protest this? Where is Al Sharpton?

  • starr6

    A strong family unit gets punished for ridding society of a worthless POS? Dirty thugs should die!

  • Jack Georatis

    He is only saying he shouldn’t have done it to keep himself out of trouble. Our insane country is putting law abiding victims into jail. Who can we write to in order to have this judge reviewed?

    • Naos

      Was not law-abiding.

      “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

      The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

      Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

      http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

  • Scott Daylor

    This guy should be looked at as a hero and not a criminal. I guess the liberals don’t want another riot as they hold their black thugs up like innocent victims.

  • bob

    Constitutionally, he did nothing wrong. If he were a cop, there would never be any charges filed. Liberal system is trying to remove our rights and move us to a Sicialist regime

    • Naos

      By law, he did something wrong. He shot an unarmed man after the gun was pulled and he put his hands up to basically surrender.

  • stemwinder

    That’s one brave Asian and one less violent black. Some call that a crime; I call it a public service.

  • David F Mayer

    He should have been given an AWARD and not a penalty.

  • Dwight Sanders

    Food is one thing , if you are hungry ” STEAL ” Cigarettes ” do without ” or get shot . Today people want what they deserve & they think they deserve anything & everything .

  • Danna

    Are the innocent suppose to just stand there and let the guilty do what they want? Kill you or hurt you? How do we know they don’t have a gun or knife?

    • Naos

      “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

      The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

      Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

      http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

  • Mark Pickett

    Probation would have been a more fitting sentence

  • Roy Jones

    It sucks for him but he pleaded guilty and was sentenced accordingly The judge was right but in his heart he probably didn’t want to send this guy to jail. Kim lost his cool because a thug shot his wife previously. Who can blame him? However, you can’t shoot and kill an unarmed person in the back while they are running away regardless of what kind of POS they are. What Kim should have done after the first incident was put up a bullet proof shield in his store. For his store it probably would have cost about 3-5 grand.

    • Naos

      Especially since after the gun was pulled, Mason put his hands up and did not resist.

  • Gregg Petticord

    A absolute travesty!!!

  • Mike Crognale

    The perp was running away! Not an immediate threat to life. You DO NOT shoot in that situation. Emotions be damned.

    • Draco

      Cops do it all the time. They don’t have more rights than anyone else.

  • GTElmore

    According to THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, the only legitimate purpose for legitimate government is “securing the rights of its citizens.” How were this citizen’s rights “secured” by this court?

    Sounds all wrong — but it happened similarly to an Air Force veteran pharmacist in Oklahoma City! He’s in prison for LIFE for defending his business – which had been robbed before by armed assailants who then tried to kidnap the female employees – against masked, armed robbers. The message to the citizenry? The thugs win – whether with the little thugs who rob people – or the BIG thugs who run the courts and prisons! No excuse for it. None. Better fix this, folks. We don’t work for the judges and courts. They either work for us — or they have no legitimate work!

    • Naos

      Because he killed someone who was not even resisting after the gun was pulled on him.

  • Michael L

    He drew a gun and threatened. The robber turned partially away
    but STILL HAD THE GUN POINTED at the clerk. Armed robbers
    sometimes kill even when you surrender the cash. Justice?

    • Naos

      No.

      “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

      The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

      Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

      http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

  • alyn21

    8 years for shooting someone who tried to rob him?? And in what way does that deter crime? Of course the parents of Michael Brown the thug who tried to kill a policeman have been given money from the govt because their criminal son was shot while committing his crime. How insane is this. In America crime does pay.

  • nighthawk

    The man deserves a medal for taking a rabid snake off the streets. Stealing is take from one who has worked hard for that item. In other words by stealing you are taking part of that person’s life, no matter the cost of the item. By this ruling, one is just suppose to sit down and let the dragging ass pants punks, walk away with whatever they wish. Call the cops , who arrive after the fact, do a half ass investigation, and tell you it is your fault for not better securing the items.
    Tell me , Mr. Judge, how is it O.K for a Bank Robber to be shot and killed, but not this POS?

  • Fultzy

    Unfortunately, once an imminent threat of serious physical injury or death decreases a justifiable self-defense can become unjustifiable offense. I imagine there were many emotions, thoughts, and circumstances nobody but this man experienced that factored into his decision, and it is a sad situation. The offenders are made out to be victims. I would have taken my chances with a jury, but that is easy for me to say. Guy took a plea probably because it is the lowest risk option. Hopefully he will get shock probation. Last, consider the environment when you live in a progressive state. This would not have happened in Texas, for example. Washington will invite the elderly and terminally ill to commit suicide, but they won’t protect the vulnerable. Many good people are trapped in a state where progressives are concentrated in a few urban areas and look down on rural folks.

    • Naos

      Because rural people don’t look down on those who live in urban areas. Hypocrite. Pretty sure you would look down on anyone who’s “progressive”.

  • Ellie_Light

    If you live in Washington State, then you deserve punishment for being an idiot. Move.

  • SadtimesintheUS

    Why did they link that other video of a completely different robbery in the story? Just present facts don’t attempt to sway opinion. The court found him guilty, just like the courts finds many not guilty, our system works fine. *insert sarcasm*

    • Naos

      They linked another video to try to get it to fill their agenda.

  • Swapster_com

    The video of the robber with the gun was not what this case was about. This was about an unarmed guy that stole cigarettes and was shot in the back. So, yea… excessive at the very least.

  • Brandon Groff

    But a Minnesota cop can kill an innocent harmless non-threatening man point-blank just for having a concealed weapon permit and get ZERO punishment…that’s how effed up our country’s “justice” system is.

  • john Diamond

    Leftists have ruined our once great society and its rule of laws.

  • Cajun812

    I inherited my dad’s belief that there is NOTHING more worthless and pathetic as a thief that either sneaks around like a cockroach in the dark or uses fear to take from others because they are too lazy and cowardly to work for it themselves. I say GOOD RIDDANCE to the vermin, and let Mr. Kim remain a productive member of society and be with his family!

    • Naos

      You do know, after the store owner put to gun up, Mason (the robber), did not resist and put his hands up?

      • Cajun812

        And you believe that piece of pond scum just needs to be shown love and he will not be a threat to others, including children, babies, dogs and the rest of the NON-criminal world? He had previously attempted to KIDNAP (steal) A 6-YEAR OLD GIRL! Remove the stain on earth. A bad dog that needed to be put down.

        • Naos

          He was already convicted of kidnapping, so that crime was irrelevant here.

          • Cajun812

            What are you, a fukin lawyer!? Loopholes for lowlifes? Good and dead is what the laws of natures dictate for ANYONE who would steal a child, and if you defend that, you’re just as sick as that violent, thieving child-molesting POS. Buh-bye dumbass!

          • Naos

            Laws of nature? No, it doesn’t. It’s not a loophole, you do the time for the crime. Which was already done, you fucking moron. Therefore, the shop owner committed murder. I didn’t defend it by any means. The sentence for that crime was already carried out, and therefore, they can no longer be considered legally responsible.

      • Pearlbuck

        Your post, which omits context, insinuates that Mason was shot while not resisting with his hands up.

        Fake news.

        • Naos

          Oh, how you wrong you are. This post tries to use the wrong video for sympathy and worded the post to make it seem like the wife was shot in the same incident. Milo is the fake news.

          • Pearlbuck

            So you stand by your claim that Mason was shot while not resisting with his hands up, eh?

            Checkmate, you pathetic fake news merchant.

          • Naos

            Hey, Fox News certainly confirmed it. And this article took the story of context. He pinned Mason back into the store with a gun, punched him, and when he tried to get away after getting beat up, Kim shot him. Stealing cigarettes is not an act justifiable for getting murdered.

          • Pearlbuck

            So you finally admit that the post you wrote was a lie. Thank you, admitted liar.

          • Naos

            No, I said the article Milo posted was a lie. Learn how to comprehend, you fucking moron.

          • Pearlbuck

            Here it is in black and white, cretin:

            YOU: You do know, after the store owner put to gun up, Mason (the robber), did not resist and put his hands up?

            ME: Your post, which omits context, insinuates that Mason was shot while not resisting with his hands up.

            Fake news.

          • Naos

            It wasn’t a lie by any means. Mason was assaulted while he was already subdued, and therefore, he technically had the right to defend himself by fighting back and attempting to escape. In no way was it a justified killing.

          • Pearlbuck

            The gun was holstered before the punch was thrown. Once again, you infuse lies into your narrative. Why, if it’s such a slamdunk case do you have to lie?

          • Naos

            Irrelevant. Again, Mason was already in submission – therefore, throwing the punch was unnecessary, and certainly was shooting the gun. You can’t just punch somebody and expect them to just sit there and take it.

          • Pearlbuck

            Bottom line, your initial post was a lie-by-omission.

  • Michele Woods

    He is a hero. Got rid of a thieving pedophile!

    • Naos

      Irrelevant, if you know how the law works. You can’t shoot someone in the back who presented no direct threat.

  • David Gorski

    I’ve been reading the comments and I’m wondering: did I miss something in this story?? Did the store owner eat the guy after he shot him??? wtf?!!

    • Naos

      “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

      The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

      Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

      http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

      • Pearlbuck

        The deviant criminal Mason was resisting citizen’s arrest.

        • Naos

          No, citizen’s arrest does not involve punching someone in the face who wasn’t doing anything at the moment. Kim was the one who started a fight by punching him after he was already subdued, and therefore, for Mason, fleeing was the correct option. No, Mason was just supposed to keep getting punched till he died. Illogical little fuck.

          • Pearlbuck

            Here’s some logic–that scumbag is dead, and the good man who shot him is alive and will walk free again.

          • Naos

            You’re just making declarative statements, and nothing to support your argument. Because you have none. By your logic, we should take anyone who’s committed a crime, and murder them. Yeah, that’ll look good on the rest of the world.

          • Pearlbuck

            Here’s a declarative statement for you: fuck him. I can only imagine how Jakeel Rashon Mason would have responded if he caught someone stealing from him. He caused his own death when he tried to rob the man’s store. He should have been shot down like a dog when he tried to steal the little girl.

          • Naos

            You’re arguing from an emotional standpoint, not a law and logic standpoint. You can’t shoot someone in the back, who’s fleeing, who presented no legitimate threat to you. Robbery is not a justifiable killing offense. Neither is kidnapping. What the robber did prior is irrelevant, since he already was convicted of the crime and served time.

            You know, I think morons like you should be put down like dogs. Let’s take you out to the back and shoot you. And my justification would be I’m eliminating stupidity.

          • Pearlbuck

            You know it’s more complex than that. The rule of law exists primarily to discourage initiating crimes. If some bystander dies of a heart attack during a robbery, for instance, the getaway driver can be charged with murder. The dead scumbag wannabe child rapist created a hostile situation when he took advantage of a contentious , potentially dangerous situation and robbed the store. The context this happened in, which included the fact that the store owner was emotionally distraught and on the defensive because a different thug SHOT HIS WIFE THROUGH THE BELLY, can be taken into account when judging the shooter’s actions. The dead man got what was coming to him. There could have been a legal basis for the shooter’s acquittal. But if an honest reading of the law led to this conviction, the sentence should have been 1 cent. Perhaps the judge’s hands were tied–I didn’t look into what his options were. But I’ll say this–if, asa you say, the shooter “murdered” the other man in cold blood, and was only given 8 years (out in four?) this was a major triumph for people who support the shooting of scumbags.

          • Naos

            The wife was shot back in February. It’s not like it was last week. Therefore, there is no excuse.

          • Pearlbuck

            Oh, his wife was shot wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy back in February? It’s like get over it, dude, some animal shot your wife months and months ago. Move on! Ha ha ha. Wow.

          • Naos

            I didn’t say it didn’t matter. However, you can’t use that as an excuse forever. You can’t just be like: “Well, I did it because I was molested as a boy by my priest”, or “my parents were shot and killed in an alleyway.” No, those are not reasonable defences, and they would never hold up in court, considering it happened several months ago. Extreme Emotional Distress would not work in this case.

          • Pearlbuck

            I clearly wasn’t an “excuse” by a genuine factor in all of this, which is what made the “old” story relevant. The guy was deeply shook by the animalistic shooting of his wife. This latest animal stole from the wrong guy, and he paid the ultimate price.

          • Naos

            It was still murder. It doesn’t matter how upset you are, it doesn’t give you the right to kill people, whether they stole from you or not. In most countries, theft is not punishable by death. At the most, you’re getting your hand cut off. Even in North Korea, you’re not executed for petty theft.

          • Pearlbuck

            Now you’re just chasing your own tail. You’ve stopped making sense. The official policies of the North Korean government are not germane. We are talking about a heat-of-the-moment scenario here, which must take into account all of the context surrounding the incident, including the shooter’s state of mind at the moment he pulled the trigger.

          • Naos

            So, by your logic, if I kill someone in the “heat of the moment”, I should be acquitted because I suffered both verbal and physical abuse as a child, and because I have various mental disorders that go untreated?

            State of mind is irrelevant for the most part unless you’re trying to plead insanity, or it’s a case of a perceived threat. Which it clearly wasn’t a threat, because they were fleeing.

  • Michael Bowen Roberts

    WE HAVE A SPECIAL KING OF STUPID INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THIS JUDICIAL SYSTEM BHOTH FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS

  • Jimmy G

    It’s Washington state where hard working honest citizens are considered “second-class” to criminals who’s rights are paramount… While authorities appear to have been Fair & unbiased and Kim’s acceptance of responsibility is Admirable, ridding the world of jut one more “Scumbag” (attempt to kidnap a young girl) should earn a Kim a Medal – not a jail cell!

  • disqus_hXFHUhG9cA

    america, you are going the wrong path.

  • Peter

    Thank God I left.

  • Naos

    For anyone who thinks the killing was justified…

    “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

    The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

    Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

    http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

  • Darlene Fry

    When I was receiving correctional officer training in Canada it was basically drilled into our head that the law states – if some one is running from committing a crime and you shoot them, you arè committing a crime. If they are injured it’s similar to assault and if you kill them, it’s murder or manslaughter. If they’re running away you are no longer in danger. Your actions after that is based on your decision to act. I it sucking but it’s the law so know it before you are put in the position. Like this man, it seems unfair especially after his wife getting injured previously but he acted after the threat was gone.

  • Covfefeghost

    So wrong, once again favoring the criminal over the victim.

  • Camry Tanner

    OMG! Seriously? It sounds to me like he did everyone a favor. We don’t need people like Mason out on the streets & tax payers shouldn’t have to house a pos like Mason either. We are all better off without him wondering the streets stealing from people & kidnapping little girls.

  • joeupyours

    especially if you cant out run a bullet

  • joeupyours

    thou shall not steal,so sayeth the Lord!

    • Naos

      Your Lord doesn’t exist… sorry.

  • Never Trust Hillary

    Why wasn’t the criminal attempted burglar already in jail for previously attempting to abduct a child? People say the justice system is too hard on Blacks? This store owner community hero should’ve just waited for the cops to arrive, they would’ve shot the robber and got away with it with their get out of jail free card.

    • venusinfarse

      He was tried and punished. Read it again.

  • Santos Manuel Torres

    Obviously a liberal terrorist loving coward state. They rather give in and apease the enemy for fear of being labled racist, political correcness is killing the law abiding citizens and we have no hope when confronting a piece of scum like this a– hole.

  • Guy Daley

    See, now if you are a cop, you can shoot people in the back, because they are fleeing felons. Then the review board says, everything is fine (it takes them six months to make this finding).

    In my opinion this is a criminal injustice. The thief came in waving a gun. Cops kill regularly with summary judgments – ZERO PUNISHMENT. I wish I was on that jury NOT GUILTY!!! for the store owner.

    • Naos

      I’m sorry, are citizens supposed to be doing “criminal justice” by any means? No, therefore, it is a slightly different matter.

      • Guy Daley

        You’re saying cops are above the law? This “citizen” did the very same thing a cop would do. Except cops will kill unarmed people, simply because they feared for their lives.

        I guess you believe in the two laws system? One for citizens and one for the Kings men?

        NOT GUILTY.

        • Naos

          I never said that. But vigilante work is illegal nonetheless. This guy’s not fucking Batman.

          You can’t claim not guilty when they pleaded guilty. That is not how it works.

          • Guy Daley

            Yes, the dope was probably coerced into pleading guilty and they do this by saying you could be found guilty and get 15-20 and so they agree to plead guilty and get 8, out in 4 with good behavior.

            I know how it works. Since he pled guilty there is no jury trial. HOWEVER, if he pled not guilty and I was on the jury, I would agree.

            The criminal was probably caught on camera waving a gun in his face for money. (why don’t they show that film, I have no idea). So, the guy kills him or taxpayers have to pay $50K plus a YEAR, to house and feed him for who knows how long because he probably had priors.

            I don’t care – vigilante justice is okay by me, in this particular case. Mind you, VJ is doled out on a case by case basis, not willy nilly.

          • Naos

            He was not waving a gun. Citizens aren’t police, they aren’t trained to be, nor should they be. And yes, under some circumstances, police don’t have to follow laws. In states of emergencies, for example, they can ignore red lights and right of way.

            “As Kim re-enters the store, surveillance video shows Kim with a handgun in his right hand. Kim points the gun at Mason and physically grabs Mason and forces him further into the store. Mason puts both hands up and is not resisting. Kim then holsters the gun before punching Mason in the face. The two men engage in a physical fight where both men exchange punches. Kim gets taken to the floor by Mason as both men continue to fight for several seconds.

            The video shows Mason was able to free himself and attempted to flee the store. Kim stood up and removed the firearm from the holster, positioned himself behind Mason, raised the gun, and shot Mason twice in the back as Mason fled.

            Mason collapsed in the doorway and died before medical aid arrived.”

            http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

          • Guy Daley

            Alright, you chased down information that was not in the original story. In the case that you just posted, he is guilty.

            Not my fault original article was misleading and propaganda trying to drum up sympathy for him. You can’t just kill someone for stealing cigarettes (unless you’re a cop of course). Thanks for chasing down info that was MISSING.

          • Naos

            It isn’t your fault at all. I don’t think it’s right to kill someone unless they’re committing actual violence, and in an officer’s case, if they’re a potential threat.

            This is why I often follow as many media sources as I can, liberal and conservative, mainstream and independent. I follow everything from CNN and Fox News to The Young Turks and Tomi Lahren. It’s a lot harder for them to try to mislead and pretty much lie at that point. Usually, the information that’s true is what they all say. Of course, there is always a bias issue, like how Fox would never report anything bad about Trump and how CNN would never say anything bad about Clinton, but at times, you have to see through their agendas.

  • Andrew Mutz

    when you shoot a man in the back in is a cowardly thing and murder.

  • 空白

    Idiotic. Like sure he was running. But prior to that he had a gun pointed at a guy to steal things from his shop. On top of the fact that his wife had been shot in the stomach from a previous incident, I don’t blame him for being on edge and wanting to make sure this guy doesn’t try it again.

    Taking a life isn’t right. But to sentence 8 years for someone that was afraid for his life? I don’t know.

    • Naos

      The robber in this case was unarmed. He actually did not have a weapon.

      • 空白

        Oh? I may have completely skipped over it then. I was under the assumption that he was armed.

        If that were the case then yeah that’s a bit hard to really dictate. I mean by robbing a store in the first place you’re already being a threat to the owners armed or not. Now the question I then have to ask is; Did the robber pretend to be armed? With a majority of robbers threatening with some form of weapon I’m not totally convinced he tried to rob the store without at least making them think you have a weapon.

        If it was blatantly obvious he was unarmed, didn’t show any signs that he was (meaning he was trying to rob it with just his fists), then it wasn’t right to shoot him. But if he did show he was armed, even if hes pretending to have one, well I’d have to say he did get what was coming to him.

        I mean a fake bomb, or a clock that might potentially be flagged as one, is just as threatening as an actual bomb.

        • Naos

          He didn’t even fake he was armed. Here’s how it went basically. He (Mason) was caught trying to steal cigarettes. The store owner pulled a firearm on him. He put his hands up. To which the store owner took him to the back of the store, and pinned him. The store owner (Kim) then punched the robber, then a fight ensued, to which Mason got Kim to the ground before attempting to flee. As he fled, Kim fired the gun, shooting Mason in the back, killing him.

          A link for reference: http://www.foxnews.c*m/us/2017/06/26/washington-convenience-store-owner-who-killed-shoplifter-is-sentenced.html

  • Looming Vengeance

    Simply put, when the law & civility fail us, we must become the law & enforce it in uncivil ways. Should someone crowd source a bounty on the judge, I’d seriously consider contributing. What say you?

    • Naos

      Pretty sure the judge didn’t really do anything. The defendant in the case plead guilty. The judge was following the law, but good job conspiring to commit murder.

  • Rick Rockwell

    Fox quotes him as stating, “I’m here to take responsibility for my actions in taking Mason’s life. I accept the consequences. I did not have the right to take his life.” Clearly, the Korean is even dumber than your average jungle bunny.

  • Joliffe Wong

    By looking at the brief of the case, it is not immediately known if the defendant was charged for murder or manslaughter. In the US, manslaughter is termed second degree murder. Issue arose as we need to know whether the Prosecution had established mens rea of the defendant. That was, did the defendant intentionally wanting to end the victim’s life? Or was he merely intended to shoot to only injure the victim? Also, the news cover did not mention whether the case was heard by a panel of Jury. For every Criminal Case, there is normally a panel of Jury to be the layman’s judge. Did the presiding Judge correctly direct the question of law upon the Jury?

    The case needed to be looked into from all angles before a concrete Judgement could be laid down. Of course, the attorney for the defendant will advise his client the avenue to appeal to higher Court. The sentencing to 8 years in prison was a little harsh for shooting dead a thug who also posed some life threatening condition.

  • BP

    I understand his plea, I mean many cultures believe that it is not a mans place to kill. The judge should have flat out found him not guilty though, this is America and you have the right to defend yourself and your property! I believe the thief, upon committing a crime, forfeits all of his rights, including to live in this case! I may not have fired on the guy because he was fleeing the store, I mean a pack of smokes is not worth a life but I believe he had the right to do so if he felt the guy was a threat to his safety. Also, I’m sorry, if Washington, Oregon and California do not want to participate in the freedoms that the constitution has afforded them then they need to secede and we will stop there funding! Even better! Go to Canada!

    • Naos

      Can’t find him not guilty when he pleads guilty.

  • Michael Perkins

    Should never tested nuclear bombs at Area 51, instead done it in LA and Washington and New York. Did the dick vote Democrats, if he did deserves jail.

    • Naos

      Oh, he disagrees with me! He deserves prison! Snowflake, getting offended if someone disagrees with you politically.

  • Heywood Jablowme

    Should have aimed lower

  • Tell me again how liberalism isn’t a mental disorder?…Anyone living in California, Washington, Oregon or any of the other liberal hellholes around the country need to get the hell out of there…You aren’t even allowed to protect your property while getting beat up by a thug who had previously tried to kidnap a child. What the hell is wrong with you people in Washington? What jury would have convicted this man of this crime?

    • Naos

      And I mean, you’re cancer, so there’s that. He pleaded guilty, therefore, juries did not convict.

      • He plead guilty to an 8 years prison sentence to avoid going to trial – where, evidently, he and his lawyer thought they couldn’t trust the liberals on the jury to do the right thing, and he would have received a life sentence…If you don’t know how our judicial system works, which most progressives don’t, then shut up and learn something from those of us who do know…

        • Naos

          Your partisan label argument is extremely asinine. Unless you’re backed with statistics that are reliable, it’s difficult to trust anything you say. And funny how you say that, considering most of your ideology are Christians… religion being a mental disorder.

          • So Christianity is now a “mental disorder?” LOL!…You sound like a complete idiot – Christianity is the foundation of the greatest civilizations the world has ever known…You humanists, however, who love unnatural sex and lack any semblance of morality and/or integrity just won’t stop until you have infected the whole of your society with your evil. And then you wonder why your society, like so many throughout history, fail the moment humanists start infecting their neighbors with the decease of humanistic thought and perversions…LOL…

          • Naos

            “When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called a Religion.” – Robert M. Pirsig.

            It is not unnatural. Homosexuality exists naturally, both in humans and in non-human animals. Christianity, however, is unnatural. Especially since, you know, it has no scientific merit, and was a simplistic way to explain things that they could not. When it rained, people just said it was from the rain god. How can you positively know Christianity is the right religion? Any argument made for it could apply to any religion, be it Judaism, Hindu, Greek, or Shinto.

            If “humanists” (I’d prefer to call myself an atheist or anti-theist), are so lacking in morality, why are wars mainly caused by religious people? There is no such thing as an objective morality.

          • There is nothing natural about homosexuality – and to say it exists in nature naturally is a lie homosexuals make to try to excuse their perversion. True, some species have been observed engaging in homosexual behavior, even some bugs but as Bruce Bagemihl’s showed in his ground breaking 1999 book Biological Exuberance, homosexual activity is a rarity in nature and, because it is such a rarity, researchers believe we are missing something that causes these rare occurrences. Many now believe it may be due to a harmful mutation – but no one really knows for sure…Nonetheless, my point is made – you are either a liar or simply do not know the science as homosexuality in nature is a rarity, so rare in fact that researchers have yet to figure why it happens. So it is not “natural” at all…

            I have no idea what “Christianity, however, is unnatural. Especially since, you know, it has no scientific merit…” means? What “scientific merit” are you looking for in any religion of philosophy? LOL!

            The science we can apply to the Bible has all been shown to be 100% accurate…You have to explain how a slave people living 3500 years ago knew to use running water rather than standing water when cleaning, how not to touch the dead when the rest of the world, especially the Egyptians were handling the dead like they were, how they knew to go outside the camp to relieve themselves in a hole and then cover it up, how they knew to burn a house with mold and rebuild, how the earth was a sphere, how not to touch a women menstruating, etc as I could just keep going on with hundreds of examples just from Leviticus and Deuteronomy alone…So how a slave people living over 3500 years ago were 3500 years ahead of the rest of the world in the sciences is a question you will have to answer. I say an omnipotent God told them these things since no one else on the planet would know them for another 3500 years!

            Your claim that “wars mainly caused by religious people” is untrue. Any historian will tell you that the vast majority of battles and wars over the history of mankind were fault over land – not religion.

            You were wrong on all three accounts, that homosexuality is “nature” in nature, that the science in the Bible being wrong or non-existent and that the main reason mankind fights wars…Care to try again? LOL!

            Dude stop trying to justify a filthy unnatural act that has no value and only breeds decease. You live in the 21st century – some of us actually know the sciences, history, the Bible and the immense value Christianity has brought to western civilization and the world at large. Unlike homosexuality which, as I said, has only produced filth and decease…

          • Naos

            It’s not rare. 1.7% of the American population identifies as either gay or lesbian, while 1.8% identify as bisexual. Which makes the percentage of people attracted to the same sex to 3.5%, or over 11 million people. 8.2% reported having engaged in same-sex activity, while 11% have stated experienced same-sex attraction. This is all according to a study done by the Williams Institute of Law. If you think 11% is a rarity that can just be ignored, that’s really damn asinine.

            And no. No one can turn water into wine, snakes don’t talk, and people don’t arise from their graves. Science being ahead for other populations than others can likely be explained, and even if it can’t, it does not have to be a god. You’re making claims without any sort of proof to back it up. I do believe absence of evidence equates to evidence of absence.

            While it was fought over land, I did not say it wasn’t. I said the majority of those involved in wars were religious. The majority of those committing murders, rapes, etc., are religious. And that’s simply a population matter. So to imply secularists don’t have morality is completely foolish.

            Please. You being on this computer is a heavily unnatural. You existing breeds the disease of stupidity. You’ve provided zero facts or sources.

          • 1.7% by any definition is a rarity and far from being “normal in nature” as you claimed earlier…Homosexuality has always been considered a mental disorder going all the way back to Freud. So that number is about right for the percentage of our population that has that particular mental disorder I guess…

            You are right – “no one can turn water into wine” but the Creator. So you and I agree on that point…Ever heard a parrot speak?…Nonetheless, the same Creator that can turn water into wine can also make a serpent (not a “snake”) speak, raise the dead, etc…

            Since we are speaking about science and raising the dead – ever studied the Shroud of Turin? I have – for over 40 years. Science can’t explain that either because it was wrapped around the body of a dead man who was raised from the dead…So much for “what science can explain”…It’s just crazy thinking how the Creator left us physical proof of His resurrection, isn’t it?

            Again, you are wrong when you say the majority of wars were fault over religion, as I said any historian will tell you the majority of wars were fault over land…And take Islam out of the equation and you are way off when you claim the majority of murders, rapes, etc are committed by religious people. No one murders and rapes as much as Islam except humanists like yourself. Just look at Chicago – do you honestly think those are a lot of Christians running around gunning each other down? Or do you think they are agnostics and atheists like yourself?

            Your ad hominems of your last paragraph only show that, not only are you lacking in class, but you can’t defend your beliefs either…And to claim I have “provided zero facts or sources” is a lie…Why do humanists-progressives believe they have a right to lie at the drop of a hat? I suppose it is because they are devoid of normal morals and live by a relative morality they invented instead?

          • Naos

            And once again, in that same survey, 11% said to have experienced sexual attraction. That is far higher. It is not considered a mental disorder, because mental disorders cause harm to either themselves or other people, it causes suffering in some way. Homosexuality, as a whole, does not. Freud is irrelevant. While he did develop essentially the beginnings of modern psychological therapy, most of his theories were debunked.

            Why does it have to be a god, though? There are plenty of things that can’t be explained. That doesn’t suggest a creator. A parrot can speak, yes, technically. However, it is nothing more than mimicry for the most part.

            The Shroud Of Turin has been among heavy debate for decades, and therefore, does not provide true evidence. Historians don’t confirm it as fact in any fashion. There was no proof of resurrection.

            Let me read you what I said again: “While it was fought over land, I did not say it wasn’t. I said the majority of those involved in wars were religious.” You need to learn how to comprehend better. I never said it was fought over religion, but that the majority of those involved in war are religious. In fact, George W. Bush said God told him to invade Iraq. And please. The Federal Bureau of Prisons stated Catholics make up 39.1% of the prison population, where 0.2% were atheist.

            You’ve provided no sources, or cited your data so that certainly was not a lie. Funny, to claim me for ad hominem attacks when you’re saying a lack morality. The pot calling the kettle black.

          • Don’t argue with me – argue with the APA (American Psychiatric Association) and psychiatry in general who has said since Freud that homosexuality is a mental disorder…A fact I threw on you earlier before you claimed I had used “zero facts and sources”…LOL!

            If you think homosexuality doesn’t cause “harm” you need to rethink that. HIV and a worn out sphincter muscle being abused for something nature never intended are two harmful effects of homosexuality that come to mind real quick…

            Now Freud is “irrelevant” because you disagree with his diagnosis of homosexuality as a mental disorder? LOL!

            If God did create the universe and everything in it – what would you call the person of force that did so?…It would have had to have an omnipotent intelligence – so what would you call it if not ‘God?’…Sounds like the same argument you used for Freud. You don’t agree with the concept of God so you are ready to call it anything but God simply because you disagree with God’s take on homosexuality…Tell me again how “homosexuality doesn’t harm anyone” when it is the very reason behind you arguing Freud “is irrelevant” and our Creator is something – anything but God…

            Science has proven that the Shroud of Turin is a 1st century Jewish burial cloth. Nevertheless, the shroud is also the most tested and scrutinized artifact from antiquity. Yet science can’t explain how the image got there, nor can they even come close to replicating it. That is, by definition – a miracle (something science cannot explain)…Of the 76 STERP Team members who originally investigated the shroud back in the 70s, all were agonistic or atheist scientists. All 76 converted to Christianity and believe the image on the shroud came as a result of the resurrection process…You would know better than they would, but I – and them see that as “strong proof” of the resurrection…You deny the shroud, and the resurrection because of your ‘relevant morality’ which prefers sexual perversions over loving your God and Creator. You lack faith – and without faith it is impossible to please God. You are, in essence, an enemy of your Creator and God…good luck with that…

            The “majority of those involved in wars” were not “religious.” Do you consider the greatest empire of all time – Genghis Khan’s empire and his army was “religious,” or the armies of the Roman Empire? How about German armies in WWI and WWII – were those religious armies? What about Napoleon, Alexander…Was the Revolutionary War fault over religion or land?

            The vast majority of American claim to be Catholic, whereas a very small percentage of Americans claim to be atheists. So of course the BOP statistics would show a higher percentage of Catholics in prison than atheists. Stop trying to lie by manipulating numbers as those numbers don’t prove a damn thing except you either don’t understand numbers and statistics or you simply lied…

            Claiming one lacks morality when, in fact, he is advocating for various things that are, in themselves, the result of a lack of morality is not an ad hominem…LOL!

          • Naos

            Outright lying. From the APA website: “No, lesbian, gay and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality.” I’ll even put the link down below. * = “o”.
            http://www.apa.*rg/topics/lgbt/orientation.aspx

            Correlation does not imply causation. Gay and bisexual men are at a higher risk for HIV then straight men, lesbian, bisexual, and straight women. But do you know why that is? It’s unprotected anal intercourse. The transmission rate with unprotected anal sex is 18 times higher than vaginal intercourse. Since two men having sex cannot produce offspring, they think they do not need condoms. This is the case for both heterosexual and homosexual couples. Anal sex unprotected could very likely lead to HIV.

            Freudian psychology, is for the most part, incorrect. He was wrong on almost everything he undertook. For example, he thought humans were born with instinctual libidos, even as infants. Which was not true. But since you want to talk about Freud, he himself said homosexuality was not an illness. This was referenced in the 1920 paper “The Psychogenesis of a Case of Homosexuality in a Woman,” in which a father hoped to “cure” his daughter of her being a lesbian through psychoanalysis. Which was in unfavourable view to Freud, who again, considered it not an illness and it would not be anymore effective to trying to convert a heterosexual to a homosexual.

            There does not have to be some omnipotent creator of the universe. Because if that were the case, then something would have had to create that creator. Homosexuality does not harm anyone. You haven’t said how, and I debunked your HIV argument.

            The Nazis were Christian. Adolf Hitler would on the regular, reference God in a positive manner in his speeches. Again, using the example of George W. Bush, who tried to use God to justify war. Napoleon was a catholic. The Mongol Empire was heavily tolerant on religion, and Khan himself was a Tengrist. How many times do I have to say, the wars were NOT fought over religion? However, practically everyone you mentioned, practiced religion to a degree, and were theists.

            so, you try to say atheists lack morality, when there’s barely any atheists in prison? According to Pew studies done in 2014, 20.8% of the United States is Catholic, and 22.8% were unaffiliated. For you to make the claim that those who aren’t religious are asinine, considering those unaffiliated make more people than Catholics, and yet have a far less prison population.

            “Claiming one lacks morality when, in fact, he is advocating for various things that are, in themselves, the result of a lack of morality is not an ad hominem…LOL!” No, it was a personal attack rather than attack of the argument. I haven’t advocated for anything that result in a lack of morality, especially since there is no objective morality.

          • Wow…I thought as a homosexual who was throwing statistics around that you knew the story behind the APA?…I guess not?…As I said earlier, psychiatry has, since Freud, considered homosexuality a mental disorder. Beginning back in the 1960s the homosexual community came together and began putting pressure on the APA to take homosexuality off their list of mental disorders – the same way pedophiles are currently trying to pressure the APA to take pedophilia off its list of known mental disorders…In 1973 the homosexual community was successful in forcing the APA to take homosexuality off their lists of mental disorders. However, homosexuals went a step further and tried to get the APA to say that homosexuality was never a mental disorder. The APA refused, and only agreed to claim homosexuality wasn’t a mental disorders years later when the corrupt Obama Administration pressured the APA to state that homosexuality was not a mental disorder – which they caved to…Yet the psychiatric associations in other countries like Russia, China, Israel, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Brazil, etc were never put under pressure by liberal organizations and, as a result, still list homosexuality as a mental disorder just as they have done all the way back to Freud…

            So nothing has changed except well-funded and well-organized homosexual groups in America pressured the APA to take homosexuality off their list of mental disorders, and the APA eventually caved to the pressure. The same way pressure is now being applied to the APA by various pedophilia groups to take pedophilia off the list of known mental disorders…Everyone knows that homosexuality, like pedophilia are mental disorders. There is no argument about that…

            I’m not going to discuss the particulars of annal sex as such a discussion is simply too filthy – too sick for me to discuss on the Lord’s Day or any day for that matter…

            Freud was undecided whether or not homosexuality was pathological, expressing different views on this issue at different times and places in his work. So stop lying by cherry picking your data…Geez!

            Why does a Creator “have to be created by someone?”…You are limiting your thinking to your 4-dimensional experiences as if He is subject to our 4-dimensional universe?…Since He created our universe and its 4 dimensions, logic tells us He had to do so from another universe with its own physical laws and dimensions…A universe where time and entropy do not exist…It is a difficult thought to try to wrap our mind around that, but all physicists are having to try to cope with thinking about other universes where different dimensions and laws control things. Obviously we can’t do that, and our math and physics immediately breakdown. So stop making the mistake that so many make by trying to limit God to our 4-dimensional universe and existence…

            If people having annal sex can catch HIV, but women can’t catch HIV through vaginal sex – then tell me again how annal sex is “safe” and does no harm?…And how is it safe and does the body no harm to wear out a sphincter muscle and have to spend the rest of your life running around with a plug up your ass?…And then lets discuss the germs involved in annal sex – No! Lets not discuss that as that is just too filthy of a thought to entertain on the Lord’s Day…And lets not discuss how homosexuality is a gateway to pedophilia. That is exactly why homosexuality is a mental disorder – a mental disorder that was developed when the child was molested or raped and grew up to be a homosexual. Over 80% of male homosexuals say they were molested and/or raped as a child…And I’m sure the other 20% just didn’t want to admit it…I ran a prison ministry in the BOP for nearly 20 years and every homosexual I talked to admitted to being molested and/or raped as a child. That is exactly why we currently have an epidemic of pedophilia going on in America. There is such an epidemic of pedophilia going on that literally every high level prison in America – state or federal – now has a prison within a prison to house the many pedophiles incarcerated. And those are just the ones that got caught. And everyone of them, and I have spoken to thousands, will tell you he molested or raped dozens of children before he got caught. I know one man that was raping one of his young sons while making his other young son blow him – and you tell me this isn’t a filthy mental decease…

            The Nazi’s were never ‘Christians.’ They were into the occults – stop playing games and hoping I’m low-informed enough to where you can get that BS off on me…

            Everyone who has ever lived, with the exception of a few agnostics or atheists, were believers to one degree or another in one religion or another. So claiming that religious people commit the most crimes when religious people make up 99.9% of the overall historical population is a manipulated stat…Your intent was to claim that religious people go to war for religious reasons and I showed you that the vast majority of wars were fault over land – not religion. Now you are trying to twist your original intent. Shame on you for trying to play such silly games…

            You have advocated for homosexuality – so of course you have advocated for something that demands a lack of morality to advocate for…Duh! So when I claim you lack morales – that isn’t an ad hominem as much as it is just stating a fact…

          • Naos

            You’re using a heavy slippery slope fallacy. Just because they took off homosexuality, does NOT mean they will take off pedophilia. Homosexuality in and of itself, causes as much “harm” as heterosexuality when done correctly. Homosexuality in NOT in the DSM, and therefore, is not a mental disorder. It doesn’t matter what you say. Are you really comparing the United States to Russia and China? I could compare it to say, Japan, which legalized homosexual intercourse in the late 19th century. In 2015, Mexico legalized same-sex marriage, same-sex activity is legal in Russia, and you’re allowed to legally change your gender after sex reassignment surgery, same with China. And therefore, progress is being made in those countries. And really? You’re looking to Saudi Arabia for your example? A country under Sharia Law? I thought you would hate those people.

            “Everyone knows that homosexuality, like pedophilia are mental disorders.” Yet the majority of people say otherwise. According to the DSM-IV, each of the mental disorders is conceptualized as a clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual and that is associated with present distress (e.g., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom. In addition, this syndrome or pattern must not be merely an expectable and culturally sanctioned response to a particular event, for example, the death of a loved one. Whatever its original cause, it must currently be considered a manifestation of a behavioral, psychological, or biological dysfunction in the individual. Neither deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individual, as described above.

            So, “deviant behavior”, sexual, religious, or political, are not considered mental disorders. Making you incredibly wrong.

            And why does something have to be created by a creator? I can literally use the same argument. Concepts like time did not exist prior to the Big Bang, and therefore, does not require a cause as we know it.

            I never said you couldn’t catch HIV through vaginal intercourse, just that you’re more likely. Because semen does not belong in the anal tract. You can catch HIV through vaginal intercourse. Stop providing anecdotes, provide actual statistics and cite your sources on homosexuality, because if you don’t, I will immediately dismiss whatever argument you make, as proof is required from a reliable source. How do you explain the straight pedophiles then? And funny, considering how many priests tend to be pedophiles.

            And no, again, Adolf Hitler constantly referenced God, and therefore, he was a theist in some sense.

            “Everyone who has ever lived, with the exception of a few agnostics or atheists, were believers to one degree or another in one religion or another. So claiming that religious people commit the most crimes when religious people make up 99.9% of the overall historical population is a manipulated stat…Your intent was to claim that religious people go to war for religious reasons and I showed you that the vast majority of wars were fault over land – not religion. Now you are trying to twist your original intent. Shame on you for trying to play such silly games…” You tried to claim they had no morals. If they did, they’d be filling up a good amount of prisons and every one of them would be in prison. You dense little shit. I said they were NOT fought over religion. But, almost every one of the wars were caused by religious people. Why do you constantly portray this ignorance?

            Attacking someone’s personal character without regard to the argument is an ad hominem. And your bible advocates for stoning people… pretty sure that’s a lack of morality. Your bible says people who don’t believe what you believe deserve a life of eternal damnation. And if you say I have a lack of morality, well you proved you have a severe lack of intelligence and ignorance, and lack of ability to comprehend.

          • If the APA succumbs to the pressure from queer groups – why would they not succumb to the pressure from pedophile groups?…That seems illogical?…

            Stop trying to compare homosexuality to heterosexuality please. A vagina was made for one purpose and the sphincter muscle and annus for another purpose. One was made for reproduction and birth – they other to expel trash and decease from the body…That’s like trying to compare a new Corvette to a bicycle found in a junk yard. LOL!

            Just because liberal-progressives in America no longer consider homosexuality a mental decease means absolutely nothing while the rest of the world not infected by liberalism still considers it a mental disorder. Hell Russia won’t even allow homosexuals around their children so they can’t teach school…

            Why do Progressives consider normalizing sexual perversions social “progress?”…Same-sex marriages, homosexuality, pedophilia, abortions, grown men in dresses in little girls locker rooms – these are not “progress” as much as they are a regression into a more primitive state…You sound like a Muslim trying to justify jihading up on innocent people while calling it ‘progress’. LOL!

            “Neither deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individual, as described above.” Thank you – I couldn’t have described the deviant behavior of homosexuals and pedophiles better myself had I tried…As I said, homosexuality is the result of being molested and/or raped as a child. This molestation and/or rape cause sever mental disorders in the victim. As I said, over 80% of homosexuals admit to being molested and/or raped as a child. And the other 20% just don’t want to admit to it…And the increase in open homosexuality over the past 25 years has directly led to a vast increase in pedophilia as one leads to another. There is no denying this fact. So stop wasting your time arguing that homosexuality isn’t a mental disorder due to being raped and/or molested as a child. Or denying the correlation between the two which is so obvious…Just spend one week in any prison in America where you can talk to men who are queer and men who are in prison for molesting children and have no appearance of being socially righteous to protect. They will tell you the truth – homosexuality is the result of being raped as a child – and homosexuality can, and often does lead to more acts of pedophilia…To argue otherwise is asinine. Even women don’t like annal sex and having a man bounce his hairy nut-sac off their chins. So you are telling me it is perfectly normal when a man ENJOYS these things” LOL!

            You “dense little shit” it isn’t against the law to blow your neighbor as long as you are over 18. So why should the prisons be filled with people who aren’t breaking the law doing a perverted act that isn’t against the law?…Moreover, even though they make up only 1.7% of the overall population, the prisons are filled up with immoral queers and pedophiles – what planet are you living on that you don’t know this? And the fact that 1.7% of the overall population is such a large part of the prison population tells us that the vast majority of homosexuals and pedophiles are, in fact, immoral people.

            If 99.9% of the historical population was made up of “religious people,” then your statistic that more religious people fought wars than did non-religious people is a senseless and meaningless statistic. Given they were 99.9% of the overall population, of course religious people were the biggest percentage of people doing anything on the planet!…Your original claim was “If “humanists” (I’d prefer to call myself an atheist or anti-theist), are so lacking in morality, why are wars mainly caused by religious people?” Because 99.9% of the people who have ever lived were “religious” people! Damn – stop trying to manipulate statistics to fit your argument…

            “And why does something have to be created by a creator? I can literally use the same argument. Concepts like time did not exist prior to the Big Bang, and therefore, does not require a cause as we know it.”…So you agree that there was a beginning – good. So everything in the universe either came from a Creator or through natural processes. This we agree on too…So lets look at the science; The Big Bang theory is a failed theory, and I don’t know anyone that would argue that. It violates the First Cause principle of physics – which you also disregarded when you said ” the Big Bang…does not require a cause as we know it.” Sure it does – everything in the universe demands a first cause, including the Big Bang itself. That Big Bang postulates that everything came from nothing is a violation of common sense, not to mention the laws of physics. Moreover, that Big Bang postulates an event without a Fist Cause also violates known physics. Maybe that is why Big Bang Theory has now been revised over 40 times. Every time we make a new discovery or make a new understanding Big Bang has to be revised by adding whatever we just discovered into the Big Bang formula by adding yet another constant or number. They is exactly why they have had to fudge their numbers with dark energy and dark matter – because the math in Big Bang doesn’t account for what we observe in the universe. So they had to create fudge numbers to make it work…

            The law of biology – Biogenesis says that “life only comes from life through the reproduction process.” That is an empirical law of biology. So tell me, where did the first life forms come from? And please don’t tell me evolution – because even evolutionists and Neo-Darwinians admit evolution cannot account for the origins of biological life.

            We’ve already discussed the Shroud and how it is physical proof of the resurrection. Yet you passed on any discussion of that science because you didn’t like were the facts would take us.

            I could keep going with more proofs that the universe and earth is young, that the science contained in the Bible was at least 3500 years ahead of mankind and ALWAYS correct, that physics demands a Creator and a First Cause but I’m quite sure you don’t want to discuss the scientific facts as your homosexuality has harmed your mind and resulted in you doing mental gymnastics to discount God thus allowing you to do what you want – the ‘relative morality’ I spoke about earlier that all humanists must live by and which is often so harmful to the individual and society at large.

            By attacking one’s immoral lifestyle I’m am not directly attacking their character. I had a homosexual friend for over 40 years who I was very close to. A wonderful man who passed away last year. He had all kinds of character – but even he would tell you that his lifestyle was immoral and very harmful until he put away his humanists beliefs and stopped with the vile and filthy homosexuality which was what killed him. So homosexuals can still be good people with character. So can bank robbers and drug dealers, etc. Overall they can be good people, but they still possess certain moral problems, I think we can all agree to that.

            How could stoning people for violating the laws of God be any more immoral than electrocuting people for violating American’s laws?…There must be consequences if there are going to be laws that govern society. Even you wouldn’t disagree with that – although I’m sure you wish you could and still be taken seriously.

          • Naos

            Pedophilia causes harm to children, and is an illegal thought to act upon. Homosexuality, however, was already legal by the time they stopped classifying it as a mental disorder.

            I can compare it. They’re both innate sexual orientations. And no, I know, you think sex is only for reproduction. How many people do you know have sex only for reproduction and don’t do it any other time? Not many, I’m sure. Intercourse is also done for pleasure and for better forming emotional bonds.

            Russia still legalized same-sex activity a long time ago, and so did Japan. The rest of the world? No, you are extremely wrong. If it was as harmful as you say, more countries would make homosexual activity illegal. When it’s clearly not. The primary areas where it’s illegal – the Muslim run countries in the Middle East. You know, those people you hate so much?

            Oh, it’s progress. Because you know, I’m not going to judge people for harmless behaviours and feeling someone of the opposite sex. And no, progressives are not at all fond of pedophilia. They’re for abortions because in the early stages of development, fetuses don’t feel pain, they don’t have a heartbeat. I don’t consider that being alive at all. On the matter of “grown men in dresses”, it’s because I don’t give a fuck. Transgenders attacking children and women is extremely rare. It’s typically normal males that go and attack women and children. And you do know, there are transgender men (female to male) as well, right? And female homosexuals? Or do you just decide to ignore them?

            “As I said, over 80% of homosexuals admit to being molested and/or raped as a child. And the other 20% just don’t want to admit to it…And the increase in open homosexuality over the past 25 years has directly led to a vast increase in pedophilia as one leads to another.” You’ve provided ZERO sources and studies to those statements. Declarative statements are not fact because you say so, and even if it did, correlation does not imply causation.

            If The Big Bang Theory was a failed theory, it would not be still the leading theory. Of course it’s revised. It’s not a scientific law. Unlike religion, science changes their observations, hypotheses, and theories depending on what new information is found. No, not everything demands a cause, because scientific laws and properties was non-existent prior to the Big Bang. Technically, you could argue nothing existed prior to the Big Bang, and therefore, it did not require a cause.

            Why does everything in the universe to you people require an answer? Science actually can’t answer how life began as of now. Andrew Knoll, a professor of biology at Harvard, said this: “The short answer is we don’t really know how life originated on this planet. There have been a variety of experiments that tell us some possible roads, but we remain in substantial ignorance. That said, I think what we’re looking for is some kind of molecule that is simple enough that it can be made by physical processes on the young Earth, yet complicated enough that it can take charge of making more of itself. That, I think, is the moment when we cross that great divide and start moving toward something that most people would recognize as living.”

            The Shroud is not proof, it’s still of constant debate with historians and scientists.

            No, the bible is nowhere near always correct, and the Earth is billions of years old. Dinosaurs existed. Civilizations existed. The Earth isn’t 2,000 or 3,500 years old. I don’t why you’re calling me homosexual, I’m not homosexual by any means. However, It’s not my business to control someone’s sex life. And no – having an all-knowing, all-powerful God would contradict the concept of free will, if he knows what’s going to happen, yet still creates you the same way, then God created what happens.

            Why are you comparing homosexuality to dealing drugs, robbing banks, and murder? We electrocute people because they take the lives of others against their will. I think we should stone stupid people. That’s much more terrible than homosexuality in my opinion. Hell, it’s one of the Satanic sins.

            I would never worship God. Judgmental, hateful, murderer, ignorant to the problems of people.

            I’ll conclude with two quotes from Greek philosopher Epicurus:

            “If God listened to the prayers of men, all men would quickly have perished: for they are forever praying for evil against one another.” and…

            “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
            Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
            Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
            Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

          • I have no idea what “Pedophilia causes harm to children, and is an illegal thought to act upon. Homosexuality, however, was already legal by the time they stopped classifying it as a mental disorder” has to do with anything? It was legal in ancient Rome to hunt down Christians, just as it was legal at one time in Germany to hunt down Jews. Just because something is legalized by the state doesn’t necessarily equate to morality? And given the state of moral decay in America – I wouldn’t use “it is now legal” as a defense? LOL!

            Sex is for reproduction anyway you cut it…And yet, sex is also pleasurable and brings intimacy to a marriage. But sex outside of a marriage, and sex between two men are both harmful to the individuals involved and society and lead to decay of the societal moral code. History has proven that to be a fact time and time again. And no person who knows rudimentary history would argue the fact that once any society starts to devalue the nuclear family and marriage through sexual perversions, ruin follows close behind…

            “Intercourse is also done for pleasure and for better forming emotional bonds” within marriage. Outside of marriage it is destructive, debasing and harmful for the individual and society as history has shown this to be an empirical fact.

            Legalizing same-sex activity while making it illegal for any homosexual to be around children, whether teaching in school or trying to adopt, tells one what Russians and Japanese really think about homosexuality…So if you are going to use an example, try to use the whole truth and not just that part of the truth that supports your argument. You are being intellectually dishonest by using only half the truth when arguing facts…

            Simply because a society has moved further from God and the traditional Judaeo-Christians values that made Europe and America great, is not evidence that homosexuality is morally right. To argue that the majority are okay with homosexuality – when the majority lives in a country with serious moral decay is hardly evidence to support your claim. I would argue it is just the opposite; America is in moral decline – and that the majority now accepts homosexuality as normal is strong evidence that America is in moral decline – it is not evidence that homosexuality is morally right…LOL!

            You can argue that moral decay, be it homosexuality or unmarried sex, is “progress” all you would like. But moral decay is never progress – as it is always the result of just that – moral decay. And history is clear, once an empire or state starts down the road to moral decay only ruin follows. As there is a coalition between moral decay and a failed state…

            Abortions, like homosexuality, were sold to the American people back in the 1950s and 60s when we weren’t as sophisticated as we are today. Abortion was sold by humanists as ridding the body of a ‘fatty-tissue’ that had no value. The invention of the sonogram blew that out of the water. But the damage had already been done as the jeannie was already out of the bottle…The same with homosexuality. It was sold as what two adults do in their bedroom is their business. The problem is they couldn’t keep it in their bedroom, and have now infected all of America with their perversions. We allowed homosexuality out of the closet, and what did we get in return as a society – skyrocketing pedophilia rates…

            “in the early stages of development, fetuses don’t feel pain, they don’t have a heartbeat” is another falsehood humanists are trying to sell to America just like ‘a fetus is a fatty-tissue’ or ‘what two queers do in their bedroom is their business’ was…Science DOES NOT know if a fetus feels pain or not…Yet you hit on the main point without even realizing it. You said “in the early stages of development” which is exactly right. Science has shown that life exists at the moment of conception. Science has also shown that ‘life’ takes on various stages, fetal, infant, child, young adult, adult, middle age, elderly are all stages in the life process. To argue that it is “legal” to end the life-process at any stage is but one step away from arguing that we can end life at any stage. You are devaluing life when you devalue any stage of the life-process. The same way you devalue the nuclear family (the foundation of any society) through divorce, same-sex marriages, homosexuality, abortion, transgenderism, etc. That is ‘progress’ for any humanist – to devalue the traditional family and traditional marriage, both of which are the foundation upon which every society was built. Show me ‘progress’ that doesn’t involve devaluing the nuclear family and marriage. You can’t, because progressivism is devoid of any new intellectual thought or thinkers. You advocate for the destruction of the nuclear family and marriage all to justify your perversions, which are the result of rape and/or molestation, and argue that homosexuality is ‘progress.’ LOL!

            “On the matter of “grown men in dresses”, it’s because I don’t give a fu*k.” Thank you – finally a little honesty…You don’t “give a fu*k” because you lack the morals it would take to ‘give a fu*k.’ You don’t care because your relative-morality is only concerned with Noas who feels no sympathy or has any empathy for anyone but Noas and his physical pleasure. Children, babies, the elderly are of no concern to you or any other humanist because, as a narcissist, you lack the ability to care about anyone or anything beyond yourself.

            “Transgenders attacking children and women is extremely rare.” There you go again, showing your lack of comprehension when it comes to numbers and statistics. Of course transgenders attacking children “is rare,” because transgenders themselves are so rare. Less than 1% of our population. But go to any prison in America and you’ll quickly see that transgenders represent more than <1% of the orison population.

            "You've provided ZERO sources and studies to those statements" regarding my claim that 80% of homosexuals were molested and/or raped as children is another lie by you. As I specifically spoke about my 20 years running a prison ministry where I worked with homosexuals and pedophiles on a daily basis. So I spoke from a point of experience from working with these men and listening to them tell their stories. So personal experience was my source…

            "If The Big Bang Theory was a failed theory, it would not be still the leading theory" only betrays your lack of understanding of theoretical physics. Big Bang is the only theory in use because we have nothing else to replace it with. Einstein's theory of relativity only takes us so far in our understanding of the universe. We have to take Einstein's theory to the next level to be able to come up with a better theory than Big Bang. And we won't be able to do that until another Einstein comes along, as he did with Maxwell, and takes us to the next step in understanding…

            Physics DEMANDS a First Cause. To argue "No, not everything demands a cause, because scientific laws and properties was non-existent prior to the Big Bang" only betrays your ignorance of physics and the laws of nature…All those "scientific laws and principles" that you speak of, each and every one had a First Cause" any way you trace it backwards. To say they don't, is to deny they exist. But you don't know that, you can't comprehend that because you lack an understanding of basic physics…Nothing I can do about that other than to suggest you try to study up on physics before commenting on something the next time you obviously know nothing about. Your hubris is amazing – and unwarranted too…

            "Why does everything in the universe to you people require an answer?" That is human nature and the very foundation of scientific inquiry. Now you are denying human nature and trying to spin human nature into something "you people" (Christians) are only concerned with? LOL!

            Yea – you keep looking for that allusive "something" that could possibly explain biological life besides a Creator…As I said, the mental gymnastics and wishful thinking that you and others Humanists go through just so you can blow your neighbor with a clear conscious is astonishing…

            The only reason the Shroud is still being debated is because Humanists like yourself refuse to admit that science cannot explain the shroud – therefore by definition it is a miracle – the miracle physical proof of the resurrection. But more mental gymnastics and poof! – evidence becomes "not proof." LOL!

            "No, the bible is nowhere near always correct…" That sounds like you have definitive or empirical evidence to back that claim up? Good, give me just one instance of the Bible not being 100% historically or scientifically accurate.

            "…and the Earth is billions of years old." That sounds a lot like a definitive or empirical claim also. Good, give me, then, just one piece of empirical scientific data to support your claim…You can't, because no such empirical data exists, so don't waste your time looking for it. What you stated is far from empirical – it is a mere opinion, and an uneducated one at that.

            "And no – having an all-knowing, all-powerful God would contradict the concept of free will, if he knows what's going to happen, yet still creates you the same way, then God created what happens." How does an all-knowing God have anything to do with free will?…Yes He knows the future, but allows you and me free will do make the decisions we make. How does His intelligence negate our free will in any way?…Another asinine claim that makes no sense when one thinks about it for just a moment…

            "Why are you comparing homosexuality to dealing drugs, robbing banks, and murder?" Because all are immoral acts. I would have thought that would have been obvious?

            Stupidity is no where near as vile as homosexuality…How you can say it is is beyond me?…Stupidity usually happens because someone is less endowed mentally speaking than others. Homosexuality is a choice – and filthy…No comparison – just more mental gymnastics on your part…

            "I would never worship God. Judgmental, hateful, murderer, ignorant to the problems of people." Such a statement is, itself, "judgmental, hateful and ignorant." But, still, "every knee will bow" to Him one day. And there is nothing you can do about that but bow when your turn comes up…

            Epicurus was a stoic who didn't understand God or spiritual matters. So I wouldn't look to a humanist to explain God to me…Because, had he known spiritual things, he would have known that prayer is not to ask your Heavenly Father for your will to be done – but rather for His will to be done…So, because praying for another man to die, or for a new car is reprehensible and unspiritual to the extreme. Which is exactly what I would expect from a heathen who didn't know God…

            To say "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
            Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
            Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
            Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God" simply proves the lack of spirituality on Epicurus' part…He only shows his lack of understanding of sorteology and God's plans for mankind…Typical. Why would you look to a fleshly man for spiritual answers and understandings? Should you not look to a Spiritual Man for spiritual answers and understandings?

          • Naos

            It clearly has to do with it. Homosexuality was becoming acceptable in society. I don’t see a ton of schizophrenics running around. Do you? Again, always trying to portray objective morality – when really, it’s unique to every individual. You’re saying homosexuality’s “immoral”, like it’s an objective truth. When it’s not. When I asked why an answer was always required, I was referring to the fact humans will come up with completely bullshit like religion to try to explain it. Any argument you make for one religion, can apply to every other one.

            Did you choose to be straight? I doubt you did. Attraction is NOT chosen. Please tell me when you can control chemical processes (because that’s all love is), without some sort of medical help.

            Prove that it’s harmful. You just keep making declarative statements without a single ounce of evidence. “History has shown this…” How has history shown this? What figures do you have?

            Telling me I lack morals when you want to condemn people to eternal burning damnation for who they love. You think stoning a homosexual is on the same level of putting the death penalty on those who killed people. Telling me to study on science when you believe in things happening that completely go against scientific logic.

            Saying the Earth is 6,000 years old is asinine, given your source is a book full of inconsistencies. Civilizations existed during the time of Noah’s Ark, so how do you explain that? The sedimentation lines in the Grand Canyon forms 40 major layers spanning 2 billion years of deposition. Any sort of radiometric dating would show that the Earth is billions of years old, and along with that, evolution. The Bible not being scientifically/historically accurate: Snakes can’t speak human language, they never could, people cannot turn water into wine, no great flood as mentioned in the story of Noah’s Ark actually happened.

            Oh, I won’t bow. I’d tell God to go fuck himself. Because he’s not deserving of any sort of worship. God didn’t create me. My parents did. If he created me, he gave me various mental disorders (such as depression), and made me born into poverty. So, he’s done nothing that I would like him for. You’ve likely grown up with overly-religious parents, that indoctrinated their children into religion. See, here’s the difference. Most atheist parents, would allow their children to be religious, because it is their choice. Religious parents, try to control their childrens’ lives and brainwash them. Religious parents will often disown their children for not being religious.

          • Just because more people are accepting of homosexuality in no way is proof that it is morally right, or that it is natural. More people are accepting of abortion but that in no way makes abortion moral or good. Such an argument is asinine. More Germans were in favor of gasing millions of Jews – did that make doing so morally right? Of course not! That is how baseless and asinine your claim is…

            Yes, I see more ADHT in children today than when I was a child. I see more homosexuality today than when I was young, I see more pedophilia today than any day in American history. The crime rates are higher, drug usage rates are higher as is addiction rates, alcoholism, divorce rates, murders, rapes – Chicago looks like a war zone. So there are more mental cases running around today than ever before in America. To deny that fact, as you just did, is either ignorance or lying…

            Morality has never been “uniquely individual” and to claim it is just proves your moral bankruptcy. Relative morality can never be the answer because morality must be societal wide. History has proven that fact…As you just said, “people will come up with complete bullshit” to try to explain away their immorality as you are doing. The mental gymnastics you are exhibiting, denying scientific facts, to abusing statistics, to denying historical truths, etc all to justify living an immoral and harmful life is, to use your word “bullshit.”

            You can’t explain “love” anymore than science can explain consciousness as both are diametrically opposed to evolution by natural processes…And please, don’t confuse ‘love’ with ‘lust,’ because doing so only shows how savage you have become. No narcissist like yourself or any confused homosexual can know love. For you lust and love are the same thing. Love has NOTHING to do with sex or self and can only be expressed through our caring for others. Something neither a narcissist or queer could ever know…

            No – I did not choose to be straight. And I am sure no man chooses to be a queer either as the confusion was caused when he was molested and/or rapped as a child or adolescent when his body was trying to understand his sexuality is the reason he is queer. The choice was taken from him – robbed from him by the pedophile who raped him…So he wasn’t born with a mental disorder – his mental disorder is the result of being scarred mentally when he was a child – by having his mind warped as a child by an adult predator…

            “Saying the Earth is 6,000 years old is asinine, given your source is a book full of inconsistencies.” Who said my source is the Bible – I surely didn’t. My source for drawing that conclusion is over 40 years of studying the sciences. The Bible merely says exactly what 21st century sciences says. Again, show me the empirical science that says the earth is 4.5 billion years old? There is none – not a single piece of empirical scientific data exists that says the earth is 4.5 billion years. Nevertheless, there is an immense amount of scientific data – none of it empirical by itself – that says the earth is young. A preponderance of the scientific evidence says the earth is young – and the Bible also says the earth is young. Given the Bible has been proven right on hundreds of sciences it declares, and not a single piece of science found in the Bible has ever been shown to be inaccurate in anyway, gives me confidence that the Bible is correct when it claims that the earth is around 10,000 years old. But the Bible didn’t bring me to that conclusion – science did…

            How are the sedimentation lines in the Grand Canyon dated?…You don’t know?…They use a technique developed in the 17th century! Bet you didn’t know that?…They date strata by the fossils found in the strata. How do they date the fossils? By the strata level they are found in. That’s right – completely circular reasoning that is based on assumptions. There are no scientific techniques that can date rock…You just keep showing how little you actually know, and how brainwashed you have become by listening to others while not knowing the science yourself…One should never trust an immoral Humanist with an agenda. But rather, they should do as I did – learn the science for themselves so no one with an agenda can lie to them.

            Radiometric dating can only go back 57,000 years maximum. Again, claiming radiometric dating can show billions of years is off by a factor of tens of thousands. That just shows how little you know…

            “Oh, I won’t bow. I’d tell God to go fuck himself. Because he’s not deserving of any sort of worship” ends this conversation as I won’t discuss anything with such a vile man. I won’t even associate with such a vile and filthy person…Go back to blowing your neighbor…

            My parents weren’t religious at all. I had a NDE (Near Death Experience) in 1972 after a sever car accident. After experiencing what I did, and how that experience overwhelmed me, I spent the rest of my life wanting to ensure that I made it back to the light one day when I do take my final breath. That meant years of comparative religion study to see which, if any, religions were correct. And over 40 years of studying secular science which always claimed religion was a farce. I had to be able to draw my own intelligent choices and decisions. And I have…

            And you have made your choices too…Please to not answer back as this conversation is now over as I cannot communicate with any man who would say what you just said about God…

            Good luck to you brother – God knows you will need it…

          • Naos

            And you are not showing how something is morally wrong except by your own subjective experience. You still haven’t proven the pedophilia-homosexuality connection. And please, you’ve studied science? No, you clearly have not.

            And yes, because God is not deserving of anything. I do not find existence and life to be something of a blessing, especially when you have to live through it suffering. And therefore, this “God” is not in anyway loving, nor is he really doing anything but playing a terrible game of Sims.

  • Doc

    WHEN THE “PERP” IS NO LONGER A THREAT (BACK TURNED AND RUNNING AWAY), DEADLY FORCE IS NOT WARRANTED, THAT IS UNLESS YOU ARE A STATE SPONSORED TERRORIST (THUG COP), THEN ANYTHING IS LEGAL FOR THEM!!
    NOW, IF HE HAD SHOT THE “PERP” IN THE COURSE OF A STRUGGLE, HE WOULD HAVE WALKED!!

  • Sam

    Stupid, but so was shooting him in the back. Deadly force is ONLY allowed to protect life, not a pack of cigarettes. He was guilty of excess use of force.

  • Fransiskus Oktafian

    Ahahaha Shit country at the best

  • Bro Richard Russell

    In Texas the law is very clear, you cannot shot someone if they are retreating from you. This store owner should have known the law before deciding to arm himself for the purpose of self defense.

  • Wayne Keith

    Kim should have gotten a medal and been given the key to the city, maybe even put his face on Mt. Rushmore

  • Ishare

    This is the broken criminal justice system. What kind of lawyer does he have? A real racist?

  • Pearlbuck

    Reduce it to a 50 dollar fine.

  • Mark Jan Cabahug

    what the F!!!!!! STUPID LAW!!!!

    • Naos

      Yes, stupid law for convicting people who plead guilty.

  • Jim

    Not surprised from a Criminal Lives Matters Democrats.

  • Tatiana Covington

    Actually, he did have the right to kill the robber! And the storekeeper’s wife had already been shot!

    • Naos

      The wife was shot… five months ago.

  • “Tyrone Prophet Junior” lol I swear you can’t make these names up

  • GB66

    Once upon a time, when a hero rid the town of a villain, he was held in high esteem and praised. Once upon a time…….

  • Ryan

    wtf thats so wrong this guy has too much honor . when you comit crimes it doesnt matter how big or how small things happen and its your fault nobody elses.

  • GrannyGripes

    Call TRUMP to ask for a full PARDON !

    zero exceptions: this country needs to get back to law and order
    STOP rewarding the criminals

  • John Curry

    I am a pro-2A guy with my own CCW permit.

    I also have to NOT be a hypocrite. This was not a “good shoot”. Civilians do not have the authority to fire upon a fleeing felon (as law enforcement has the right). The robber was fleeing. Period.
    … no life or limb was imminent, therefore, it becomes a “no shoot” situation. WE cannot say “But he will just rob me again” or any of that… as civilians with permits to carry concealed (or open carry), using deadly force is only justified when life or grave bodily harm are imminent. Once the threat is over, no longer is it a “good shoot”.

    I have to agree with the prosecution on this one. The bad guy was fleeing, therefore there was no immediate threat.

  • Mike Casey

    shoot and kill them all, this poor guy was rail roaded

  • dzhugashvili

    This is what you get when you have concentrated numbers of insane leftists in a voting jurisdiction. This unfortunate fellow would have gotten a medal in TX or almost anywhere in the south. Live with leftists at your own peril.

  • banjobean2017

    Hope this is a lesson to all business owner on the West Coast–YOU MEAN NOTHING! The important people here are those committing crimes. She deserves the 8 years, not for what she did to protect herself, but for apologizing for it. . .

  • Braxton Perry

    The Democrats take offense when their criminal voters are shot.

  • Yuen

    8 years sentence is too severe.

  • artiefischel

    Well, they’re right. The robber broke off the attack which means you don’t get to shoot him. I hope the store owner gets out soon as he’s no threat to society.

    Pro tip: shout “hey asshole you forgot your wallet!”, then shoot him as he turns. 😉